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Author Topic: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?  (Read 8327 times)

Bowdon

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Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:25:21 AM »

I think Windows 11 comes out soon. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum will be getting it?

I did the upgrade check on my computer and so far both the motherboard and cpu have no TPM 2.0 facility. The CPU isn't on the list.

The people who can upgrade I think will get Windows 11 offered to them as an update.

For those who can't upgrade we have until 2025 Windows 10 support.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2021, 11:44:28 AM »

Just out of interest I tried the checker to see if my hardware was compatible but it says I need Windows 10 before I can even try this. Not that I intend to get it anyway, I was just interested as my hardware is quite new. I cannot see why they would restrict this, surely if they want to try to get people back to Microsoft they need to try harder.

I think I'll stick to Linux anyway  ;)  :blush:  :-X  :no:

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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2021, 12:12:59 PM »

Windows 8.1 runs fine, may look in 2023.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2021, 12:25:23 PM »

I have a Intel Kabylake i5 (7th Gen Processor) so no upgrade for me  :( TPM 2.0 is enabled on the M/B (Intel PTT). I did notice that Asus have issued a new Beta Bios for my M/B for Windows 11.... haven't tried it yet as it's not final release.
Still we've got until 2025 to move to a new platform, although the new Intel Alderlake (12th Gen Processor) looks interesting  :)
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2021, 12:52:13 PM »

I have a Intel Kabylake i5 (7th Gen Processor)...

I suspect that one will be easy to get around.
Of my three devices running Win10 only one has a TPM, but that also has a 7th Gen i5 like you.
The other two are running a 3rd gen i3 and an AMD A10-5700K - both getting on a bit now but still more than happy running Win10 for everyday tasks. The AMD PC still has a spinning HD too!
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2021, 02:22:45 PM »

I think you're underestimating what Microsoft may be attempting here.

I believe they want to exclusively use new CPU instructions to better optimise the OS and reduce the avenue for bugs to creep in, there's no other good reason I could see for the CPU cut-off restriction and them saying unsupported hardware wont get OS updated and may crash.

I'd actually be annoyed if they DON'T do that as it would point more to collusion with OEMs in order to push new hardware, I'd rather believe they are actually doing it to improve OS stability.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2021, 02:46:57 PM »

I think you're underestimating what Microsoft may be attempting here.

I believe they want to exclusively use new CPU instructions to better optimise the OS and reduce the avenue for bugs to creep in...

I really don't know, as two out of my three Win10 machines aren't on the supported CPU list for Win10 (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-processor-requirements) and as far as I can see never have been. They are both however running just fine and still getting updates.
I even had a Core 2 Duo running Win10 until about a year ago. That wasn't the best experience but it was useable.
I think only time will tell on this one.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2021, 03:12:40 PM »

They said they will work fine, right now.  The idea is they are limiting it so they can make changes later and not guarantee those CPUs will still work.

So basically if in the future they figure out a way to dramatically improve performance or security using instructions exclusive to new CPUs, they can do it.

Although I'm dubious on the security aspect as if they were really serious about that they would have enabled bitlocker in Home edition.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 04:56:46 PM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2021, 05:53:45 PM »

I think Windows 11 comes out soon. I'm wondering if anyone on the forum will be getting it?

I did the upgrade check on my computer and so far both the motherboard and cpu have no TPM 2.0 facility. The CPU isn't on the list.


I used the PC check and the processor was the only thing that failed the test.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2021, 07:13:33 PM »

Apparently you can use https://gist.github.com/AveYo/c74dc774a8fb81a332b5d65613187b15 to install Windows 11 bypassing the CPU and TPM checks.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2021, 07:31:29 PM »

Apparently you can use https://gist.github.com/AveYo/c74dc774a8fb81a332b5d65613187b15 to install Windows 11 bypassing the CPU and TPM checks.

I think someone here suggested the CPU list will change over time and ones listed as not compatible now will change.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2021, 09:55:59 PM »

I think someone here suggested the CPU list will change over time and ones listed as not compatible now will change.

They've said they will continue to review the list to decide if any more will be added, no guarantees.  Makes you wonder what the determining factor is in what qualifies a CPU.
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2021, 12:13:49 AM »

I have one laptop recently purchased that passes the compatibility check.

I also have a very near miss - a tablet that passes everything except the disk size (it only has 58GB).
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2021, 07:09:51 AM »

I will stick with windows 10
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Re: Windows 11 - anyone getting it?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2021, 10:41:47 AM »

Have noticed today that my Win 10 Pro PC's are now displaying a Win 11 incompatability warning on the Windows Update display window, not sure when this appeared but was certainly before a "Defination Update" carried out today.

Does not appear to be an obvious or easy way to remove this message, I have no wish to be blatently reminded of this already well documented MS anomaly and would prefer to have the message removed, I'am sure someone will discover a way to do so.
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