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Author Topic: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6  (Read 4237 times)

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TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« on: July 27, 2021, 02:08:40 PM »

https://www.talktalkgroup.com/article/talktalkgroup/2021/TalkTalkLaunchesAmazonEero

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Monday 26th July: Today, TalkTalk announced it has teamed up with eero, an Amazon company, to offer the award winning eero 6 and eero Pro 6 mesh routers to its full fibre customers as standard – making it the first major ISP offering revolutionary Wi-Fi 6 router technology in the UK.

eero works hand in hand with TalkTalk’s Future Fibre and uses powerful Wi-Fi 6 technology to support TalkTalk’s superior speeds, and boost efficiency to extend Wi-Fi signal across the entire home.

eero 6 is designed with a dual-band Wi-Fi 6 system for homes with up to 500Mbps internet connections, while eero Pro 6 has a tri-band Wi-Fi 6 system, which supports up to 1Gb (1000 Mbps) internet connections. Both mesh routers are optimised for TalkTalk’s network and UK homes for superior connectivity and enable you to connect 75+ devices simultaneously.[1]

With TalkTalk’s full fibre connectivity and eero 6 and eero Pro 6 mesh routers, customers will have access to the future of home Wi-Fi, so they can continue to demand the most from their connection – without having to worry about usage caps, restrictions or Wi-Fi blank spots.

Key eero features available to TalkTalk Future Fibre customers:

eero mobile app enables easy set-up, as well as network management and fault diagnostics, giving customers more control and visibility of their home network performance, integrated with TalkTalk Customer Support.
eero Secure comes as standard. eero Secure is an online security service that helps to block malware, spyware, phishing, and other malicious threats from downloading to customers’ devices, all while improving load times for ad-heavy sites. Plus, with advanced parental controls, customers can easily block websites for family-safe browsing, streaming, and social media use.
Built-in Zigbee smart home hub (Amazon account linking required), providing a seamless connection to Zigbee-enabled smart devices such as light bulbs, door locks, switches, plugs, and sensors without the need for a separate hub.
Additional eero units can be purchased to create a mesh network, providing whole-home coverage and tackling Wi-Fi blank spots.
Elegant design that fits perfectly into the decor of any home.
Tristia Harrison, CEO of TalkTalk, said: “We always strive to offer our customers the latest technology, superior speeds, and reliable performance at an affordable price. Coupled with our ambitious and accelerated full fibre roll out, our new relationship with Amazon’s eero is helping to make next generation home Wi-Fi a reality. As the first major ISP in the UK to offer eero to its customers we are excited to be at the forefront of making the UK’s leading fibre and Wi-Fi technology affordable for everyone.”

Nick Weaver, Co-Founder and CEO of eero, said: “Working together with TalkTalk, we believe we can deliver an amazing home Wi-Fi experience designed for all kinds of uses including working from home, helping kids with online learning, keeping in touch with friends and family, streaming 4K content, and online HD gaming — all at the same time.”

As part of a phased roll-out, eero 6 will be included as the standard mesh router** for customers on TalkTalk’s Future Fibre 150 plan and eero Pro 6 for Future Fibre 500 customers. Customers will also benefit from speeds up to 1Gb supported by eero Pro 6 when TalkTalk launches gigabit capable Future Fibre this Autumn.

For customers needing extra coverage from today you will be able order extra eero devices to create a mesh network from £89 (RRP £139).

And from September, there will be a pay monthly option for extra eero devices – with up to two additional eeros for just £6 per month.



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meritez

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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2021, 02:09:39 PM »

There's more links and stuff on the press release
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2021, 09:05:45 PM »

I think I trust Hauwei more than Amazon for router security.
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2021, 09:49:08 PM »

I think I trust Hauwei more than Amazon for router security.

"Alexa/Ziggy/Echo/Amazon, do a speed test"
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2021, 10:07:31 PM »

"Computer, what porn sites have I been on today"
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2021, 11:22:19 PM »

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TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6 

Seeing as the Eero can't do PPP, Talktalk may be the only OpenReach ISP to ever supply it.

I'm currently trying to blag 1 from Talktalk.
My 550/75 service goes live on Thursday.
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2021, 02:40:07 AM »

"Computer, what porn sites have I been on today"

Cant find that Alexa skill, the speed test one exists though:https://www.amazon.com/DSLReports-com-Speed-Test/dp/B01MPVQXEN#:~:text=Alexa%20can%20tell%20you%20your,and%20evaluate%20it%20for%20stability.
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2022, 11:52:29 AM »

I just received an email about this from talktalk saying if you use this with any other ISP they will remotely brick it.

This does not sound like a very good thing at all that this is even possible with a router.

Is there anyway to install a custom firmware onto it to prevent them this ability (I actually would be using it with TalkTalk hence how I got it iin the first place, but I do not like this big brother is monitoring you ready to cut you off idea at all).
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2022, 12:22:17 PM »

I just received an email about this from talktalk saying if you use this with any other ISP they will remotely brick it.

This does not sound like a very good thing at all that this is even possible with a router.

Is there anyway to install a custom firmware onto it to prevent them this ability (I actually would be using it with TalkTalk hence how I got it iin the first place, but I do not like this big brother is monitoring you ready to cut you off idea at all).

 :o

https://web.archive.org/web/20160110135743/https://eero.com/developers

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Every eero also has OpenWrt compatibility. Use the USB port to quickly switch to running OpenWrt. We believe that you should have the freedom to do anything on the hardware. If simple setup and automatic configuration isn't your style, do your own thing on our awesome 802.11ac hardware. It has the guts you need.
any chance of a snippet of the email with personal information removed?
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2022, 01:38:04 PM »

Here it is here uploaded to an image host. I have added the lines to the scary part. Its also repeated in the black TOS section at the bottom too. But apparantly from reading Reddit they literally have the ability to brick it from the cloud. Which is very scary stuff.

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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2022, 04:42:28 PM »

:o

https://web.archive.org/web/20160110135743/https://eero.com/developers

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Every eero also has OpenWrt compatibility. Use the USB port to quickly switch to running OpenWrt. We believe that you should have the freedom to do anything on the hardware. If simple setup and automatic configuration isn't your style, do your own thing on our awesome 802.11ac hardware. It has the guts you need.
any chance of a snippet of the email with personal information removed?

I'm shocked that a product got worse once Amazon bought the company. </sarcasm>

Seriously though, pretty much guaranteed at this point as I don't think any WiFi 6 device supports OpenWRT right now, the drivers are still in development, though the bricking is one-step beyond crappy of them.

Why even bother letting you keep in when you leave if they're going to pull this?
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2022, 04:28:24 AM »

Amazon firesticks dont even support WPA3 or 802.11w, so the company doesnt exactly seem up to date on basic security mitigations.
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2022, 07:55:59 AM »

I just received an email about this from talktalk saying if you use this with any other ISP they will remotely brick it.

This does not sound like a very good thing at all that this is even possible with a router.

Is there anyway to install a custom firmware onto it to prevent them this ability (I actually would be using it with TalkTalk hence how I got it iin the first place, but I do not like this big brother is monitoring you ready to cut you off idea at all).

There's no image of the email you received email showing in your later post but TalKTalk's T&Cs (https://new.talktalk.co.uk/legal/terms-of-use) say:

The eero device is restricted use and can only be used on the TalkTalk broadband network and with TalkTalk eero enabled packages (currently Fibre 150 and 500 data-only), otherwise they may be deactivated.

I read that as saying they'll disable it if you try and use it on a different TalkTalk package and not if you use it with another ISP. I suppose it depends if the router can still 'call home' from another ISP's connection and if they can then update it via said connection to disable it.
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2022, 08:48:42 AM »

I think I trust Hauwei more than Amazon for router security.

Seriously? What's the basis of that? Your feelings?
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Re: TalkTalk first major ISP to offer Amazon's Eero 6
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2022, 11:30:43 AM »

There's no image of the email you received email showing in your later post but TalKTalk's T&Cs (https://new.talktalk.co.uk/legal/terms-of-use) say:

This is what it says in the email

"Your eero will only work with your TalkTalk's Future Fibre service and can be deactivated if used on other networks and packages excluding any additional eeros purchased by one off payment."

There is a post on reddit (hope its ok to link to reddit on the forum) where someone bought a used eero that was locked to a different ISP and it wouldn't do anything whatsoever.

from r/eero

https://www.reddit.com/r/eero/comments/fypu0i/possible_to_flash_new_firmware_to_eero_pro/
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