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Alex Atkin UK

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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2021, 10:03:36 PM »

It'll be interesting how many people will upgrade.

More like how many CAN upgrade.  Though it does seem TPM is enabled by default on laptops but off on motherboards.  I'd expect Dell, HP, etc probably also have it on by default on their desktops.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2021, 10:09:38 PM »

It'll be interesting how many people will upgrade.

None including myself
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2021, 11:03:18 PM »

None including myself

Clearly not true, as I will be as will 100% of PC gamers as AutoHDR is very nice to have and DirectStorage will be mandatory in a year or two to run modern games.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2021, 11:18:30 PM »

Well I am not fan of any gaming so switching to Linux are fine for my needs of everything except non gaming. I don't play game at all.

Windows 11 upgrading are suitable for heavy gaming pc
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2021, 12:05:09 AM »

TPM is fine. Secure Boot is a good idea. Those plus the other security enhancements in 11 will hopefully make the life of malware authors harder.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2021, 12:27:38 AM »

Well I am not fan of any gaming so switching to Linux are fine for my needs of everything except non gaming. I don't play game at all.

Windows 11 upgrading are suitable for heavy gaming pc

I'm literally using Windows, MacOS and Fedora these days - mostly (and preferring) the latter.  The trick is to know the right tool for the job, brand loyalty is for fools.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2021, 12:36:55 AM »

The checker tool has been updated to give more detail on what fails compatibility.

https://t.co/hTWMe16DWO?amp=1
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2021, 03:01:56 AM »

TPM is fine. Secure Boot is a good idea. Those plus the other security enhancements in 11 will hopefully make the life of malware authors harder.

What are the other security enhancements? I didnt watch the event and the only things people talk about are TPM and secure boot.

I agree secure boot probably should be required.

The only thing that puts me off, is all the padding around everything, which is very wasteful of screen real estate, and the removal of option to set small icons on the taskbar.  Microsoft seem obsessed with making a desktop OS to work with touch devices, instead of two separate OS builds for them.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2021, 10:26:54 AM »

I noticed that when the MS compatibility checker was installed, my PC would not turn off  ??? ??? ???
It would just keep returning to the desktop, even reboot...
Uninstalled it, now is all ok!  :)
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2021, 12:58:43 PM »

Other security enhancements include increased use of virtualisation / Hyper-V, more use of control flow heuristics and making use of newer CPU functionality.

TPM is a good foundation and I would point out that our mobile devices have similar functionality.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2021, 02:16:16 PM »

I will get Windows 11. But I can see me going right up to the 2025 end of Windows 10 service date before I buy a new computer.

It's just a shame that millions of working windows computers will now be out of security updates in 4 years.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2021, 02:38:27 PM »

Looks like I'll be running Win 10 until 2025 or until my hardware dies, whichever comes first.
Of my three Win 10 machines only one looks like it will be upgradable; a 2017 Dell laptop with an i5-7300HQ and TPM 2.0. The other two are rather ancient in PC terms, sporting an i3-3110m and an AMD A10-5700K respectively. They date from 2012 but are still just fine for basic everyday use - the AMD machine still has a spinning HDD  ;D
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2021, 03:20:58 PM »

Other security enhancements include increased use of virtualisation / Hyper-V, more use of control flow heuristics and making use of newer CPU functionality.

TPM is a good foundation and I would point out that our mobile devices have similar functionality.

I have had a little read now, so they enabling features already available by default such as HVCI.

It is a step forward security wise, although at the same time they will still have all the wrappers and no enabled by default Applocker.

I can understand more and more now why they doing this as a new windows version instead of just turning it on in Windows 10, these security features dont come free, I had stability issues in microsoft edge (large memory leaks) when it was using isolation during testing, and there is a performance impact, however we at a point where people have been soaking up the cpu performance hits for spectre and other cpu vuln patches, the hardware companies will be loving this as it will sell more hardware to overcome the performance hit.

They are also locking directstorage behind windows 11 keeping with the tradition of hiding gaming API's behind a new OS to get people to shift over.

Hopefully they solve the stability issues (it was a couple of years ago I tested so I expect will be improvements), and any performance hits are mitigated to minimal levels.  I wont be an early adopter of course, I rarely am.
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2021, 03:47:05 PM »

Microsoft Windows 11 release and available for beta and inside tester by 28th June say Microsoft
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Re: Windows 11 Live Event
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2021, 03:50:43 PM »

Let us know how you get on with it Max. :)
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