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Facebook insane censorship
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:55:37 PM »

A friend of mine just attempted to post something on BookFace. She wrote: "I have the keyboard skills of a gnat". Facebook produced an "anti-bullying" report and deleted the post! Was she being derogatory to gnats?
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 09:37:02 AM »

technically, yes she was.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2021, 11:11:50 AM »

Isn't a gnat like a flea?

I got a 12 hour suspension from tweeter the other day for telling this guy who was threatening to punch someone to punch himself instead. The suspension reason was that I was supporting self harm.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2021, 07:33:23 PM »

One of my friends had something similar about a week ago saying something about sounding like a wailing cat that was also supposedly bullying.

 
I suspect they are automated bots picking up on key words.   I've seen several instances of blocked posts over the past month or so that must be blocked by bots. I even had a post deleted of mine that was about Easter Cactus plants and then a link to a genuine wiki site... that got blocked as spam.   I'm like what?   :-\
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2021, 11:16:01 PM »

They would need a neural network recogniser engine, crude algorithms will just produce the ridiculous results that we are seeing. And that would be expensive to scale up to their needs.

And the recognisers can so easily be defeated; just post yn Gymraeg.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2021, 11:27:49 PM »

Google Translate returns "in Welsh". Is it correct?
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2021, 12:36:44 AM »

It is. My Welsh is terrible, but Iím putting in the hours in my citylit.ac.uk classes. That was where I started learning Scottish Gaelic 25 years ago before I moved to Skye to become a full-time student at smo.uhi.ac.uk.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2021, 08:36:56 AM »

Trouble is there is huge political pressure to do something about problematic posts on social media (and so there should be), but most don't understand the complexity of checking every single post, it simply can't be done by humans, you'd need huge numbers of people, so it has to be done by bots, which clearly isn't working.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2021, 02:09:42 PM »

I've just this minute had one of my Facebook posts deleted because it contains a link to a spam website.
   
The link was to a gov website. -  More accurately it was to here: https://www.food.gov.uk/news-alerts/alert/fsa-prin-36-2021?

I dunno what algorithm they are using to think a .gov.uk site is spam  :-X
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2021, 05:50:12 PM »

Trouble is there is huge political pressure to do something about problematic posts on social media (and so there should be), but most don't understand the complexity of checking every single post, it simply can't be done by humans, you'd need huge numbers of people, so it has to be done by bots, which clearly isn't working.

a more sensible solution might be to apply the algorithms before the post is published, ie when you hit "send" it checks and comes back with saying you can't post it, allowing you to modify your post to make it compliant.

it will still have false positives, but it'll stop all the true positives (unless they are clever enough with the language, and those that are likely to post stuff like that won't have the language skills to by-pass it).
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2021, 10:03:32 PM »

I'd imagine there are a lot more layers before it decides to even look at the post.  Just doing it in real-time for every post would not always be practical.
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Re: Facebook insane censorship
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2021, 11:47:39 AM »

I got hit by the spam bot today for something I posted AGES ago.

Apparently posting a link to https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/15071421.nhs-gp-practice-sets-up-a-private-service-by-paying-up-to-145-to-jump-the-queue/ is SPAM, in a discussion about the NHS being privatised!  :-\
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