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Author Topic: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul  (Read 10744 times)

adslmax

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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2021, 12:07:48 PM »

You had G.Fast installed on this line in December 2019 - https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24139.msg406421.html#msg406421 - so you should know exactly how it is going to perform

That's was in 2019. but things has changed estimated now
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2021, 12:08:19 PM »

Cuckoo Oak has no Cablelinks as it's not a Headend exchange.

Only TTB and Openreach know what they have at your headend however congestion is unlikely.

My 300 FTTP service is on a 1Gbit cablelink and never congests.

Thanks
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2021, 12:09:31 PM »

Good news UnchainedISP informed me that Openreach engineer will come on Tuesday AM slot between 8am and 1pm 25th May.  :)
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2021, 01:32:45 PM »

I thought the install was on 26th May?
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2021, 01:44:08 PM »

I thought the install was on 26th May?

The ISP say it now 25th May instead of 26th. But who care! The earlier the better!  ;D ;D

Updated: BTw checker has changed from May 26th to 25th  ;D

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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2021, 01:58:36 PM »

Roll on Tuesday  ;D
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2021, 02:01:41 PM »

Roll on Tuesday  ;D

Yep! Not long now! Stick to the gun this time (no regret) not gonna to cancelled. By the way I off to see my doctor with my interpreter in half an hour. I better get ready but I am nervous with my GP examine me and positive good news outcome
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2021, 05:34:34 PM »

That's was in 2019. but things has changed estimated now

The actual line itself hasn't really changed. Estimates irrelevant, should be more than fine for 160/30.

A reminder g.fast has vectoring so amount of subscribers shouldn't matter much.
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2021, 07:41:19 PM »

As others have already mentioned, because g.fast uses vectoring then it escapes the sometimes huge losses due to crosstalk we've seen with vdsl2.
So it should perform similar to last time. 

Whilst on that topic..  a reminder to you:   IIRC most of your problems and unhappiness last time you were on g.fast seemed to stem from the fact you felt that the 160/30 product would have been better suited for your requirements and you wished that you hadn't gone for the higher speed.    It may be best to remember that just in case you are tempted.     Good luck for Tues.
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2021, 07:44:51 PM »

Many thanks. Look forward to Tuesday  :) and lovely tea and cake for the engineer. It's would be better & best not to know the higher attainable from the engineer's JDSU tester as long I am more than happy to have 160/30 for many years to come but if FTTP come along (160/30) I will take that depend on the price cost. 

This Tuesday I leave the engineer to hook up openreach modem along with my TP Link Wireless Router from WAN port. When he gone, powered down for 30 minutes and swap to one router (G.fast) XMG3927-B50A with the latest firmware already on it V5.17(ABMT.5)C0 and few settings changed all thanks to helpful from re0 and shall leave it alone, forget the dslstats. Enjoy the service! But, of course have to do one off check on the router stats and one off speed test and that's was it.

Updated: next door told me few days ago their G.fast has been ongoing connected for nearly 10 months with no issues from the cabinet 8 (that's good to know) as I know their EE are using BTw backhaul. TalkTalk Business backhaul shouldn't be any problem either.

« Last Edit: May 21, 2021, 09:16:34 PM by adslmax »
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2021, 09:58:38 AM »

Updated:

Btw checker has changed estimates (increase speed in gfast)  :)

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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2021, 05:34:35 PM »

There's no real need for you to show us the daily changes in the estimate, Max. Remember, an estimate is just that . . . an estimate!  :)

Wait until the install has taken place, then show us the figures.
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2021, 12:52:48 AM »

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Not sure of that. Plusnet / BTw have their own bras ip profile on both sides. TalkTalk Business doesn't have any bras ip profile?
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2021, 01:13:59 AM »

The estimates have absolutely nothing to do with bRAS profiles.  :no:  As b*cat said..  they are nothing more than best guesses.

About the only thing I can think may cause changes are perhaps your neighbours performance.   Not that his line will affect yours, but more to do with that they can sometimes take the r/l speeds of any near/neighbouring lines as an indication to what you may perhaps be expected to get.      For example if my neighbour got g.fast first and our line lengths are very similar, then the speed they sync at could be used to estimate what speed Openreach think I might be able to get.

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TalkTalk Business doesn't have any bras ip profile?

You are thinking of LLU ADSL(2+) and their own MSANs in the exchange.
The streetcab DSLAMs belong to Openreach, so its Openreach's DLM.

I'm trying to think why you'd bring the ip-profile into it?  ip-profile is based on your actual and real time sync speed.
With you mentioning PN are you thinking about the Plusnet line speed rate, which is based off the BTw ip-profile, but again nothing to do with DLM or speed estimates.

   
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Re: Goodbye Plusnet FTTC, Hello G.Fast from Unchained via TT Backhaul
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2021, 01:20:49 AM »

I was talk about if my FTTC 80/20 suddenly down to 28/20 then I check BTw ip profile as it say 77.35Mbps and check PN current line speed was set at 25 Mb (then I know PN are capped the line) and raised fault on the line.

If TalkTalk Business OR ip profile for G.fast 154Mbps from 160/30 and TalkTalk Business current line speed could match the Openreach ip profile. Sorry kitz - I thought TalkTalk Business use LLU G.fast. My mistake
« Last Edit: May 23, 2021, 01:22:53 AM by adslmax »
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