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Author Topic: April 2021 Updates  (Read 829 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2021, 06:40:54 AM »

My 32 bit never presented the update in windows update yet other updates downloaded and installed. I had to go to Windows Catalog and download the 32 bit updater manually. No boot problems after install though. 64 bit machines no probs.

In my experience if an update isn't presented over windows update, it means Microsoft aren't convinced its stable yet.  Quite ironic considering how many updates have proven to be broken that did auto update.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2021, 08:59:04 PM »

In my experience if an update isn't presented over windows update, it means Microsoft aren't convinced its stable yet.  Quite ironic considering how many updates have proven to be broken that did auto update.

I was thinking CPU WU check as it has a pretty old CPU. But the manual package installed fine.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2021, 10:55:25 PM »

I was thinking CPU WU check as it has a pretty old CPU. But the manual package installed fine.

There has been cases also where Windows Update cannot upgrade properly and the forced update does it slightly differently somehow so causes less issues.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2021, 11:14:03 AM »

I just paused this update for 7 days after reading the thread and this article;

https://betanews.com/2021/04/16/kb5001330-update-for-windows-10-is-causing-performance-problems-and-other-issues/

It makes me wonder what the state of the code is in the windows OS.

I'm thinking with so many conflicts these days that the code will be a mess.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2021, 02:45:55 PM »

Its my understanding the reason they have so many problems these days is they are trying to tidy up the code, move of as much to user mode as possible to avoid hard crashes and security holes.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2021, 04:59:32 PM »

Ah so it's not just me then - we need to keep an eye on it for now. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I have paused Windows updates for now.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2021, 05:03:48 PM »

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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2021, 05:20:37 PM »

In some of the articles it mentions about about using Group Policy editor, which however is not a component of Windows 10 Home, though it can be enabled. The problem I find with this is that the windows updates settings are still hidden.

However, I found this handy little stand-alone app which is described as Group Policy Editor on steroids.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/policy_plus.html

I shall be having a tinker.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2021, 07:02:46 PM »

Yes with Home much of the GPO is missing. However you can download the policy files to get the same functionality.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2021, 05:11:12 AM »

In some of the articles it mentions about about using Group Policy editor, which however is not a component of Windows 10 Home, though it can be enabled. The problem I find with this is that the windows updates settings are still hidden.

However, I found this handy little stand-alone app which is described as Group Policy Editor on steroids.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/policy_plus.html

I shall be having a tinker.

Nice find, I think even for users of pro, education, enterprise that app could be handy, the normal policy editor is lacking in UI quality.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2021, 12:43:28 PM »

I'm using Pro so I changed the Group Policy so ask me before it downloads updates.

I had to help a friend who was using Home. It had already installed on her computer. So I had her Pause the updates, then uninstall KB5001330.

I find its better to Pause the updates before removing the file otherwise after the computer reboots Windows will try and redownload it.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2021, 03:06:41 PM »

As anyone seen any updates to this problem?

I don't think Microsoft have acknowledged it, even though KB5001330 is all over the different forums, especially gaming focused ones, complaining about it and giving instructions to uninstall it.

I put it on the 7 day pause. But at this rate it'll run out on the 24th so I'm going to have to extend the period.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2021, 06:22:27 PM »

Not as yet.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2021, 06:27:25 PM »

If you go to settings / updates & security / advanced options, you can extend the pause period to around 35 days.
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Re: April 2021 Updates
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2021, 07:15:39 PM »

Making me nervous as I will be doing a fresh install tomorrow, if its included in the current ISO I'll be stuffed.
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