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Author Topic: Advice on first modem  (Read 925 times)

Adam1V

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Advice on first modem
« on: February 14, 2021, 04:43:59 PM »

Hi guys, first time poster here.
Iím looking to break out my broadband connection using a separate modem and UniFi UDM Pro.

Currently using Sky VDSL 70/20.

I had originally settled on using a Vigor 166 however a few posts on here are suggesting the firmware is not particularly stable.

Just curious if anyone has any suggestions, is the 130 a decent and stable alternative?
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2021, 04:53:55 PM »

I would say depends on your cab type if you know it?
I use vmg3925 in bridge on eci cab. I want the real time line stats. They are cheap and very stable. Easy to get supervisor access too
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2021, 05:40:43 PM »

Hi guys, first time poster here.

Welcome to the kitz forum.  :)

As above . . . If you are interested in the circuit statistics, one of the ZyXEL VMGnnnn-B10 series devices should serve you well.
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2021, 06:00:14 PM »

I would say depends on your cab type if you know it?

Where can I find the cabinet type?
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2021, 06:16:03 PM »

Just looked it up, and slightly puzzled as itís listing FTTC is unavailable to my phone number and postcode when it clearly is?

Ah, that data comes from the SamKnows website and, unfortunately, is horribly out of date. So you are located in the area served by the Midsomer Norton telephone exchange. If you know the primary cross-connection point (cabinet) number, it is fairly easy to lookup the details on the Magenta Systems CodeLook website.
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2021, 06:21:11 PM »

I work in radstock/MSN area. Seen a few huawei's round there...hope you are on one..
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2021, 08:02:58 PM »

I work in radstock/MSN area. Seen a few huawei's round there...hope you are on one..

small world! I live very close to the centurion and I think im connected to the Cabinet right next to the roundabout:

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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2021, 08:36:08 PM »

The good news is that Huawei cabinets have been exclusively deployed in the Midsomer Norton area.

Looking via Google Maps Street View, I am fairly certain that is the "fibre twin" to SSMID P3.
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2021, 08:43:39 PM »

Sorry for the daft question, but what is it with the Huawei cabinets, are they out performing all others?
After doing a lot of reading on this site, I think the ZyXEL VMG8924-B10A appears to be a wise choice of modem, set in Bridge mode?
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2021, 08:45:44 PM »

small world! I live very close to the centurion and I think im connected to the Cabinet right next to the roundabout:

Nice. Will be passing it in the morning heading for westfield... I would opt for a broadcom device and not a draytek given your vdsl cab type.

8924 bit old now. Try a vmg3925-b10b

Huawei cab has better options than eci. 3db profiles, g.inp as an example, vectoring (on some)
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2021, 08:59:55 PM »

Sorry for the daft question, but what is it with the Huawei cabinets, are they out performing all others?

It is actually the case of what is wrong with the alternative infrastructure cabinets (with ECI electronics) that were deployed for the FTTC (VDSL2, ITU-T G.993.2) service. Given that is was just a binary choice, the elapsed years of deployment have shown "Huawei good", "ECI bad". (With apologies to "Snowball" from George Orwell's novel, "Animal Farm".)  :D
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2021, 07:10:51 AM »

Nice. Will be passing it in the morning heading for westfield... I would opt for a broadcom device and not a draytek given your vdsl cab type.

8924 bit old now. Try a vmg3925-b10b

Huawei cab has better options than eci. 3db profiles, g.inp as an example, vectoring (on some)

8924 may be a bit old, but if you're just using it as a modem, then I find it great.  I've recently moved from a draytek to 8924 to match up with broadcom in the cabinet using an 8924.  Very happy with it.  I am lucky to have a very good line - max attainable rate for me is 115/25 this morning and I get 80/20 with SNMR of about 15db each way, but it's been completely solid, and the dual port setup to enable monitoring using dslstats is very nice and simple.  All in all, turn everyone off (wifi etc.), set it up as a bridge, and you're good to go.  And, of course, it has the added advantage of being available for about £10 on the auction site of your choice...

After a load of fiddling, i also got the voip ports to work when it's in bridge mode, it's £10 buys you voip as well...
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2021, 09:10:57 AM »

I myself should start thinking about using VMG 8924-B10A units, as they are cheaper than the VMG1312-B10A devices Iím using now. Can they still be bought new, boxed?

Consider putting the Johnson (our very own kitizen) firmware in them so you get PPP MTU 1508 and the functional enhancements including the Ďeasy statsí (as I have termed it) built-in web server. See https://github.com/johnson442/custom-zyxel-firmware/releases
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2021, 10:01:43 AM »

I'm using a Draytek Vigor 130 with my VDSL line to Unifi USG3 and USG4Pro, and it has been bulletproof.  If you use it as a pure modem (ie with PPPoE being handled in the Ubiquiti router) there are some Unifi config hoops you have to jump through to get SSH access from the LAN onto the router; these may not be possible on the UDM Pro as from what I understand they removed the ability to edit the JSON config manually.

Web stats are pretty limited from what I recall.
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Re: Advice on first modem
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2021, 10:38:07 AM »

For reliability I can recommend a VMG3925. Mine has not been rebooted for 307 days and the DSL connection has been up for 47 days.

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