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Author Topic: VDSL2 Disaster  (Read 3184 times)

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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2021, 07:57:44 PM »

Speaking for the engineers with the JDSU (no idea about the EXFO) ... but the in-built TDR recognises the incoming AC ringing voltage as 'High voltage', and flashes a warning all over the screen making it impossible to carry out any form of interrogation.

Ah, I had forgotten about the "Nanny knows best" feature of the JDSU (or should that now be Viavi?  ;) ).

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Can't beat the old-school stand alone TDR meters, for this kind of faulting technique.  ;) :) :)

Of course, when typing the above, I was thinking of my Tester 301C.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2021, 08:08:26 PM »

Ah, I had forgotten about the "Nanny knows best" feature of the JDSU (or should that now be Viavi?  ;) ).

Of course, when typing the above, I was thinking of my Tester 301C.

Indeed so, the Viavi is replacing the JDSU, but not sure where 'they' are with the roll-out stage at this moment in time ??

Aah - the 301C - a king amongst kings of the TDR digital readers, only matched (or slightly surpassed) with the old oscilloscope, who's name, make and model I couldn't tell you ??. They were almost obsolete by the time I'd begun my faulting career and only the old sweats would have them ... but boy could they detect a HR anywhere along the circuits length ... unlike the digital TDR's that are either good at short distance, but not long distance ... or vice-versa.   :)

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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2021, 11:09:00 PM »

Indeed so, the Viavi is replacing the JDSU, but not sure where 'they' are with the roll-out stage at this moment in time ??

Aah - the 301C - a king amongst kings of the TDR digital readers, only matched (or slightly surpassed) with the old oscilloscope, who's name, make and model I couldn't tell you ??. They were almost obsolete by the time I'd begun my faulting career and only the old sweats would have them ... but boy could they detect a HR anywhere along the circuits length ... unlike the digital TDR's that are either good at short distance, but not long distance ... or vice-versa.   :)

Its quite bizarre how something can be obsolete when its better at its job than the replacement.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2021, 11:13:20 PM »

Its quite bizarre how something can be obsolete when its better at its job than the replacement.

Indeed. And that is one of the reasons why I like old technology!  :D
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2021, 12:44:07 AM »

Indeed. And that is one of the reasons why I like old technology!  :D

Posting to the forum over telegraph could be tedious though.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2021, 12:57:08 AM »

Posting to the forum over telegraph could be tedious though.

Which is why I use a circuit configured for ADSL2.  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2021, 01:48:39 AM »

Which is why I use a circuit configured for ADSL2.  ;)

Too new, you should be on dialup, maybe 9600 baud.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2021, 01:20:34 PM »

Meanwhile I await my visit today, presumably with the inferior kit ;)
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2021, 06:11:21 PM »

Unfortunately OR never showed so I’m now waiting for a new appointment so watch this space  :-\
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2021, 06:13:35 PM »

Too new, you should be on dialup, maybe 9600 baud.

You forgot to include the shared-service telephone line.  :P

But I think we should now stop this hijack of g3uiss' topic, as a moderator might notice and then take some action.  :-X
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2021, 02:43:26 AM »

You forgot to include the shared-service telephone line.  :P

But I think we should now stop this hijack of g3uiss' topic, as a moderator might notice and then take some action.  :-X

That's long before my time, mind you I'd be rather young to use 9600 baud too.  Though my first modem was 14.4K as it was from a skip.

My god, was it only the 90s when 9600 came out?  Boggles the mind to think how far we've come.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2021, 09:18:53 AM »

And I had a Modem with a Phone on top and a party line. Still however my fault worsens and no fix in sight  :no:
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2021, 01:31:26 PM »

New appointment Monday, but just had two resyncs and line appears to have returned to normal. Would I cance OR visit via Zen to avid cost ?

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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2021, 04:48:24 PM »

New appointment Monday, but just had two resyncs and line appears to have returned to normal.

It's not too clear to me, being as the events are still at the far right-hand ends of the various live plots.

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Would I cance OR visit via Zen to avid cost ?

Only you can decide. Perhaps discuss it with Zen and see if they know of Openreach performing any D-side maintenance that might have impacted your service?

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Stats

www.west-lodge.com/vdsl/index.htm

I'm still not that happy with the QLN plot. But if you could perform the "power-off, disconnect and leave it overnight" technique, the new statistics from the next day should clarify the situation.
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Re: VDSL2 Disaster
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2021, 06:35:41 PM »

@bcat thanks. I've just updated the live stats, but the QLN, is now about normal for this circuit. I will discuss with Zen as you suggest, but my suspicion that if its stable and my syncs are normal there isn't anything for me to complain about  ::)

I'm sure this is something "environmental"  or as you say OR work. Zen have just said to monitor until 1600 Sunday and if still stable cancel OR visit and they will request a DLM reset. There arnt any US FEC now so that indicates to me that the US isn't having issues ?

Thanks for input

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