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Author Topic: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream  (Read 718 times)

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CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« on: December 12, 2020, 11:55:10 AM »

Not sure how many here use CentOS but apparently CentOS is being shelved and they will concentrate on CentOS Stream, see https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/. Apparently the founder of CentOS has a new Linux project see https://rockylinux.org/. Just read all this on a thread on openSUSE forum.

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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2020, 06:57:38 PM »

Interesting.

My home server that provides daily backups,  media storage, TV recordings, bug database, version control, internal web server, among other things is CentOS.

When the time comes to retire it and rebuild I guess I’ll have to spend time deciding which Linux distribution, or other OS,  should replace it.  And that will annoy me as I hate being forced to make decisions.  But tbh, when I built in in 2015, despite CentOS looking like a safe bet for life,  I never really doubted that it would one day vanish.  All things do, especially things we don’t pay for. :(
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2020, 08:06:45 PM »

Just sign up with Red Hat for a free developer account (free, as in no cost) and use whichever release of RHEL (currently -7 & -8) that takes your fancy.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2020, 11:01:57 PM »

Just sign up with Red Hat for a free developer account (free, as in no cost) and use whichever release of RHEL (currently -7 & -8) that takes your fancy.

That is indeed an attractive option and likely to be front runner when the decision time arises. :)

My server also facilitates my iOS publishing activities which technically would be classified as business use, even though profits average single/double digit £pa.  A cursory glance suggests, that would still be allowed with RH Developer.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2020, 12:03:27 AM »

I seem to recall pointing you towards CentOS for your last rebuild - was it five years ago? - with the comment that the words "Fedora" and "server" (as in a long term usage server) should not be considered in conjunction with one another.

A cursory glance suggests, that would still be allowed with RH Developer.

I can definitely assure you that you would.  :)  (If I did not have access to RH entitlements via what I do elsewhere, when wearing a different hat, then I would register for an account in my own name.)
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2020, 12:20:13 AM »

I seem to recall pointing you towards CentOS for your last rebuild - was it five years ago? - with the comment that the words "Fedora" and "server" (as in a long term usage server) should not be considered in conjunction with one another.

Yes indeed, after taking your advice I felt that CentOS and the knees of bees could safely be mentioned in the same sentence. :)

And if memory serves right it was 2015.   The date sticks in mind as we were just about to go on holiday when the old Fedora (shh...) server died in, literally, a cloud of smoke.   I think I described it in a thread, “What’s that smell”, with pics of burned SATA connectors.  Not that the burn-up was the fault of Fedora, mind you, blame for that lies with HP.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2020, 06:42:34 AM »

I don't understand this decision, isn't Fedora supposed to be the release before RHEL?

So is it now Fedora > CentOS > RHEL whereas before it was Fedora > RHEL > CentOS?  I mean why?
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2020, 10:12:22 AM »

The discussion I found this on is over at https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/547928-CentOS-is-dead-now-what-from-SuSE. You may find that interesting.

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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2020, 03:52:20 PM »

The [...] server died in, literally, a cloud of smoke.   I think I described it in a thread, “What’s that smell”, with pics of burned SATA connectors.

'swhat happens when you let the magic smoke out...
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2020, 05:11:09 PM »

. . . server died in, literally, a cloud of smoke.   I think I described it in a thread, “What’s that smell”, with pics of burned SATA connectors.

Ah, yes. I remember that incident.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2020, 02:50:17 AM »

Just sign up with Red Hat for a free developer account (free, as in no cost) and use whichever release of RHEL (currently -7 & -8) that takes your fancy.

But I'm lazy, and just use the pre-configured images my VPS provider has.

Guess its good I'm still on 7, does that still have its full support period?
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2020, 03:13:48 PM »

Guess its good I'm still on 7, does that still have its full support period?

As far as I am aware, CentOS-7 will continue to exist for the remaining lifetime of RHEL7. So that is to the end of June, 2024, if I am remembering correctly.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2020, 10:14:38 AM »

I feel very sorry for anyone who has upgraded from Centos 7 to Centos 8 this year in a production environment.
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Re: CentOS is dead! Long live CentOS Stream
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 05:59:17 PM »

I feel very sorry for anyone who has upgraded from Centos 7 to Centos 8 this year in a production environment.

Exactly.  It makes no logical sense to cut-off support for the newer version sooner than the older version.  If I had bothered to keep track of new releases I'd be on 8, but as its running my e-mail I tend to see it as if it aint broke, don't fix it.  Whereas I risk my home NAS/Server on Fedora.
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