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Author Topic: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee  (Read 1622 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« on: December 01, 2020, 11:07:14 PM »

It seems Openreach are wanting to charge a fee to anyone using leased lines to aggregate FTTP customers.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/12/fury-as-alternative-uk-fibre-networks-hit-by-new-openreach-fee.html
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Re: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 01:29:28 AM »

I will be surprised if ofcom ignores it, if it was just a generic price rise on leased lines then BT could argue its in reflection to their costs, but a surcharge just because its been used as backhaul for FTTP services is a blatant anti competitive move.
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Re: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 03:36:51 AM »

Its absolutely baffling that they would even attempt this.  You pay for a pipe of a given size, how you use it is none of the carriers business, data is data.
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Re: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 10:11:47 AM »

Reading between the lines I think OR are attempting this because this area is one which is not regulated because

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as they are not part of the relevant market where we have Significant Market Power (SMP)

although I think they are pushing their luck. Lets see if OFCOM have any teeth and are fit for purpose.

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Re: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 05:17:13 PM »

You pay for a pipe of a given size, how you use it is none of the carriers business, data is data.

And if the data being carried is encrypted then only the sender(s) and recipient(s) are privy to the contents.
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Re: Fury as Alternative UK Fibre Networks Hit by New Openreach Fee
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 07:31:58 PM »

Reading between the lines I think OR are attempting this because this area is one which is not regulated because

although I think they are pushing their luck. Lets see if OFCOM have any teeth and are fit for purpose.

Stuart

I still don't get how they can argue this though.  If they have significant market power for leased lines, how can they NOT have significant market power for leased lines carrying FTTP traffic?  Surely what the lines are used for is completely irrelevant?
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