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Author Topic: xDSL Patch Cables  (Read 1091 times)

fat jez

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xDSL Patch Cables
« on: January 29, 2020, 08:49:27 PM »

[This post (and those that follow) have been split off from bkehoe's topic G.Fast Installed.]

I'm using one of these with my Huawei modem:
https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/adsl-vdsl-patch-leads/adslvdslcat5patchlead05m/

Not entirely sure it has the best sync rate and lowest noise as I struggled to attain full sync speed initially and the OR engineer indicated I should be syncing around 375 down according his equipment. It is supposed to be cat5e cable and I have the new style G.fast wall socket which filters extensions.

That said, according to the wholesale checker, I also have a bridge tap, which seems unlikely if my extensions are being filtered at the master socket.
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2020, 10:25:10 PM »

My dsl cable was brought from this company back in 2012 https://www.tandyonline.com/electronics/telecoms-dsl/high-speed-rj11-dsl-cable-0-5m.html (was changed to the same one from this company last year but 2m cable long)
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 09:11:53 PM »

Anyway, from what I've found, the Belkin "Hi-Speed" F3L900CP1.8MWHS cable that I bought back in 2014 seems to have one of the best Attainable and SNR despite being Cat. 5

Found this cable one here: https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/15184-belkin-f3l900cp1-8mwhs/
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2020, 09:25:23 AM »

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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2020, 10:24:02 PM »

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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2020, 10:24:58 PM »

Anyway, from what I've found, the Belkin "Hi-Speed" F3L900CP1.8MWHS cable that I bought back in 2014 seems to have one of the best Attainable and SNR despite being Cat. 5

I have ordered this cable too
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2020, 12:21:01 AM »

The Belkin and Kenable ones look good. I have used a lot of the Tandy/ADSL Nation ones and have promoted them on the forum; the only slight disadvantage of them is that they are RJ-11 to RJ-11 not RJ-11 to RJ-45, so they are not a 100% ideal snap fit at the faceplate end. I  did manage to get some RJ-11 to RJ-45 from somewhere now, canít recall where unfortunately. The most important thing of all is length; as far as I can see making them ridiculously short is everything - If you do so, then you canít go wrong and thatís why I use 0.5m cables wherever possible, or 1m perhaps where necessary. So many cables are too long.

I noticed some of the blurb for one of the cables was saying "ten times faster"; lying hounds! Thereís no advertising standards authority in such a situation though.
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2020, 05:00:24 AM »

Back when I was on ADSLx, cables made very little difference - even at varying lengths (something like 0.5m to 2m), considering the line was already attenuated like it was 3km long, the internal cable was miniscule in the grand scheme. I mean, it was somewhat true for VDSL2, too. Everything just fell into the margin of error, that I remember.

The biggest difference was a good filter/splitter. From memory, on ADSLx, most were within about 5% of the highest performer (at least for speed, perhaps errors were worse). But some of the junk that came with cheapo ISP supplied kit and some of the crap I accumulated could exceed that margin.
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2020, 07:15:36 AM »

Itís different for me, because of the extreme length of the lines the rx signal in the house is so weak (low voltage) that electrical interference inside the house is much more significant; this plus the fact that noise on the line outside is extremely low due to the lack of electrical activity because there is no human habitation or industry along the line for the last 3 miles or so. This means that I think itís fair to assume that short cables need to be of good quality (twisted pair at least).
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2020, 06:52:18 PM »

I'm using this cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00SCBA09K/

My cable has arrived and connected to Hub One for testing the line quality.

1. Product name:Plusnet Hub
2. Serial number:*******************
3. Firmware version:Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.237.2.2 Last updated 10/11/17
4. Board version:Plusnet Hub One
5. DSL uptime:0 days, 14:46:09
6. Data rate:19999 / 79903
7. Maximum data rate:26744 / 86026
8. Noise margin:18.2 / 9.6
9. Line attenuation:12.1 / 10.6
10. Signal attenuation:11.9 / 10.6
11. Data sent/received:665.0 MB / 9.6 GB
12. Broadband username:********************
13. 2.4 GHz Wireless network/SSID:******* 2.4GHz
14. 2.4 GHz Wireless connections:Enabled (802.11 b/g/n (up to 300 Mb/s))
15. 2.4 GHz Wireless security:WPA2
16. 2.4 GHz Wireless channel:1
17. 5 GHz Wireless network/SSID:********* 5GHz
18. 5 GHz Wireless connections:Enabled (802.11 a/n/ac (up to 1300 Mb/s))
19. 5 GHz Wireless security:WPA2
20. 5 GHz Wireless channel:44
21. Firewall:Default
22. MAC Address:*****************
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2020, 09:54:41 PM »

There really is no point if you are already at max sync though.
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2020, 09:57:52 PM »

The clue is in the username.   ;)
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2020, 04:44:47 AM »

The clue is in the username.   ;)

I know I know, had to say it though, its painful to watch.
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2020, 10:06:34 AM »

My cable has arrived and connected to Hub One for testing the line quality.

3. Firmware version:Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.237.2.2 Last updated 10/11/17


 :no: 2017 firmware  :no:

@adslmax how long have you had this Hub One?
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Re: xDSL Patch Cables
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 01:26:43 AM »

Hub One has been stable for 3 days now as to my surprise the DSL Checker has changed my line estimated has gone up from 217/31 to 259/39 for G.fast thanks to new dsl cable.

1. Product name:Plusnet Hub
2. Serial number:*******************
3. Firmware version:Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.237.2.2 Last updated 10/11/17
4. Board version:Plusnet Hub One
5. DSL uptime:3 days, 21:29:10
6. Data rate:19999 / 79903
7. Maximum data rate:26280 / 85897
8. Noise margin:18.1 / 9.5
9. Line attenuation:12.1 / 10.6
10. Signal attenuation:11.9 / 10.6
11. Data sent/received:6.1 GB / 92.7 GB
12. Broadband username:********************
13. 2.4 GHz Wireless network/SSID:******* 2.4GHz
14. 2.4 GHz Wireless connections:Enabled (802.11 b/g/n (up to 300 Mb/s))
15. 2.4 GHz Wireless security:WPA2
16. 2.4 GHz Wireless channel:1
17. 5 GHz Wireless network/SSID:********* 5GHz
18. 5 GHz Wireless connections:Enabled (802.11 a/n/ac (up to 1300 Mb/s))
19. 5 GHz Wireless security:WPA2
20. 5 GHz Wireless channel:44
21. Firewall:Default
22. MAC Address:*****************

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