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[j0hn]

They will need upgraded.
Don't think 212Mhz was even finalised when OpenReach started the G.Fast rollout.

The current Huawei lines cards definitely don't support 212Mhz.
I haven't got a clue on the Nokia kit but I'd be amazed if it wasn't the same story.

[smallal]

I see Broadband Buyer are now accepting pre-orders for the UK version V166-K.
Priced at £96.94 inc VAT (excludes delivery which starts at £3 via Royal Mail).
https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/41275-draytek-v166-k

[justlostinthejargon......]

Amazon seller NetXL claiming 100 in stock (I spoke to them on the phone and they say they got the stock at 11am this morning).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DrayTek-Vigor-166-G-Fast-Supervectoring/dp/B08CRZCXBL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=vigor+166&qid=1608378481&quartzVehicle=1505-10&replacementKeywords=166&sr=8-1

They had them listed at £117 inc shipping originally, they've now upped their price to £140 so no order going to be placed by me as that's not the crimble spirit as far as I'm concerned.

[smallal]

I expect prices will stabilise once everyone's got their stock, it's increased again to £144.49 on Amazon!
Ordering direct from netxl it's £139.19 (£130.80 + £8.39 delivery by DPD next day)
So it's actually slightly more expensive via their Amazon shop at the moment

[j0hn]

They really should have made a new Amazon listing specific for the UK version.

Half the reviews are either German, or English and complaining it doesn't work.

No way to tell what you are ordering without messaging each seller.

[fat jez]

I see Broadband Buyer are now accepting pre-orders for the UK version V166-K.
Priced at £96.94 inc VAT (excludes delivery which starts at £3 via Royal Mail).
https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/41275-draytek-v166-k

That's a not unreasonable price and given it exposes line stats and I don't need a router, I am very, very tempted.

We got G.Fast in my area because Virgin ran in cable and BT suddenly found themselves at a severe speed disadvantage with no immediate plans for FTTP.

[smallal]

They really should have made a new Amazon listing specific for the UK version.

Half the reviews are either German, or English and complaining it doesn't work.

No way to tell what you are ordering without messaging each seller.

Totally agree, Amazon have messed up (not for the 1st time)
However, sometimes going directly to the sellers own website helps, as is the case with NetXL.
There are currently only 2 versions of the Vigor 166 that I can find:
The V166-A (also known as GEN1) for the EU & V166-K for the UK, another EU model (GEN2 with 212Mhz support) is due soon.
I've got one on back order from Broadbandbuyer who I've used before, hopefully they'll get them in next week.

[shdf]

hello !
does anyone know what SOC they used in that modem ? always a lantiq ?

[j0hn]

hello !
does anyone know what SOC they used in that modem ? always a lantiq ?

Yes. They aren't called Lantiq any more though.
It's an Intel chipset.

I'm not sure on the 166 chipset
The Vigor 165 has an Intel VRX518.

The Intel VRX618 and VRX619 both support G.Fast.

Looks like the VRX618 does up to 106 MHz and the VRX619 does up to 212 MHz.

[smallal]

I expect prices will stabilise once everyone's got their stock, it's increased again to £144.49 on Amazon!
Ordering direct from netxl it's £139.19 (£130.80 + £8.39 delivery by DPD next day)
So it's actually slightly more expensive via their Amazon shop at the moment

Something odd going on at Amazon UK?
The V166-K price keeps changing several times a day, even though the supplier remains the same (NetXL)
As of 27/12 @ 15:00 it's risen again to £159 via Amazon, however NetXL's own website still shows it @ £130.80 + P&P

[j0hn]

Something odd going on at Amazon UK?
The V166-K price keeps changing several times a day, even though the supplier remains the same (NetXL)
As of 27/12 @ 15:00 it's risen again to £159 via Amazon, however NetXL's own website still shows it @ £130.80 + P&P

That's very normal.

They are using automatic software that adjusts the pricing based on the competitors price.

Every time 1 of the other 2 sellers drops or increases their prices then NetXL automatically adjust theirs.

I've sold a number of items on Amazon.
If i ever lowered my price then about 4 other sellers of the same item automatically lowered their price to be 1p cheaper and remain the top seller on the listing.
If I put my price back up then the other sellers did the same, remaining 1p cheaper again.

This pricing software is used by thousands of sellers across millions of items and I believe was the cause of the huge 1p glitch Amazon sellers suffered a couple years ago.

[smallal]

And that's where Amazon have screwed up!
There is no competition for the V166-K, only NetXL sell this model on Amazon at the moment.
Amazon is using the price of the EU model V166-A as a comparison!

[j0hn]

Rather stupid yes.

It's not Amazon's fault though. When you use Fulfilled by Amazon they follow your instructions.

NetXL should have made a new separate listing.

They've simply sent Amazon their stock and said "it's this listing here" and told Amazon to use the existing listing of the EU model.

[justlostinthejargon......]

So my Vigor 166 UK unit arrived this morning.

They are Version 1 units rather then Version 2

I've obviously obfuscated the serial and other identifiable numbers for privacy reasons.

I'll set it up on the weekend when I have time to do it properly and will feedback here.

[mofa2020]

Great news, thanks for updating about it.. can not wait to see it in action