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Author Topic: Is that banded on the line?  (Read 2458 times)

adslmax

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Is that banded on the line?
« on: August 23, 2020, 02:46:06 PM »
DLM has resync just this morning:

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xa4a1 (164.161) / v0xa4a1
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pvfbH043q.d26u
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime

            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     12.0      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   74000      19999
SNR margin (dB):           6.4      15.0
Power (dBm):               12.4      2.0
Interleave depth:          16      1
INP:                       49.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25898 Kbps, Downstream rate = 87754 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 74000 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.4             15.0
Attn(dB):        12.0            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.4            2.0


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j0hn

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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 03:05:12 PM »
No idea.
It might just be a coincidence that the sync is an exact figure.
The high attainable but normally 6dB SNRM is confusing.

Resync the line to find out.
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adslmax

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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 03:11:00 PM »
Ok just rebooted router and here is it:

DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xa4a1 (164.161) / v0xa4a1
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pvfbH043q.d26u
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime

            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     11.7      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2     
Connection speed (kbps):   74000      19999
SNR margin (dB):           9.0      15.1
Power (dBm):               12.5      1.7
Interleave depth:          16      1
INP:                       49.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)     

xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 24716 Kbps, Downstream rate = 87129 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 74000 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        9.0             15.1
Attn(dB):        11.7            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5            1.7
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 09:29:27 PM »
That would seem to confirm banding, yes.  Although there isn't really anything you can do about it.
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 10:02:36 PM »
Don't understand why would DLM banded on my line for? Is it to do with a week ago when my line was resync for 10th time?

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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 10:56:43 PM »
Not sure you will know, but you still have a great line. Is it stopping you using any services?
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2020, 12:29:11 AM »
Quote from: adslmax on August 23, 2020, 10:02:36 PM
Don't understand why would DLM banded on my line for? Is it to do with a week ago when my line was resync for 10th time?

Trying to understand DLM is asking to go insane, all you can do is wait it out, avoid re-syncing and hope it goes away.

My Zen line has recently re-banded itself too, no idea why, but the last time it happened it did just go away.
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2020, 01:18:45 PM »
Why is Plusnet IP Profile lower than BTw IP Profile - very poor throughput speed 70Meg as my line still banded at 74000Kbps.  :( Fed up with DLM as I think Openreach love to slow your line down!

Summary of Performance Test
Timestamp
Monday 24 August 2020 | 13:11:32
Ping
17 Ms
Download
70.61 Mbps
Upload
20.46 Mbps
Advance Test
Download Test
Download speed achieved during the test was 70.61 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 40 - 73.99Mbps
IP Profile for your line is 73.99 Mbps
70.61 Mbps
73.99 Mbps
Upload Test
Upload speed achieved during the test was 20.46 Mbps
IP Profile for your line is 20 Mbps

Your broadband service

    Product: Unlimited Fibre Extra
    Estimated Download Range: 60 - 72Mbps
    Estimated Upload Range: 17 - 18Mbps
    Minimum Guaranteed Speed: 55.6Mbps
    Current Line Speed (Download): 73.7Mbps
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2020, 01:42:01 PM »
Annoying, but in the scheme of things 70.6Mbps is still pretty good for FTTC!

DLM has finally turned off my interleaving (hopefully it will stay off this time), but I'm still banded at 67Mb, with max attainable of 76Mb. It's frustrating to give up the speed for no good reason.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2020, 01:54:08 PM by MTW »
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2020, 02:10:22 PM »
I will complaint this to Openreach CEO and Ofcom as well. 70Meg reduced from 80Meg is not acceptable!
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2020, 03:33:43 PM »
Quote from: adslmax on August 24, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
I will complaint this to Openreach CEO and Ofcom as well. 70Meg reduced from 80Meg is not acceptable!

Max, just let it be. Don't obsess over it.  :(

And I've just suddenly remembered, you were supposed to be having a break in Wales. What has happened?
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2020, 03:37:03 PM »
Tomorrow off to wales
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2020, 03:41:38 PM »
That's good. So go and enjoy yourself.  :) 

(Just forget about xDSL broadband connections to the Internet.)
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2020, 04:02:06 PM »
Quote from: adslmax on August 24, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
I will complaint this to Openreach CEO and Ofcom as well. 70Meg reduced from 80Meg is not acceptable!

Your contact (that you agreed to when you signed up and when you renewed) says it is acceptable.

74Mb is well within the range of estimates Plusnet quote you, and even more above the minimum guarantee for your line.

Contacting the OpenReach CEO and OFCOM is a bit over the top don't you think?
Neither are the correct avenue.

A (polite) enquiry to Plusnet is all that would be required.
A request for a DLM reset may well be refused though as your line meets your estimates.

Personally I would leave things as they are.
I have a feeling you won't though.
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Re: Is that banded on the line?
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2020, 07:07:37 PM »
Oh well. I have to accept 74Meg and just forget about it. I off to Wales for few days tomorrow but not looking forward to stormy winds and rain. :( >:(
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