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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 12824 times)

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #180 on: July 18, 2020, 03:32:48 PM »

I don't think anyone has the slightest clue what modems resulted in the last trial being stopped.

Which was the last trial? The one in 2016 had an issue with Lantiq modems locking up for which updated modem firmware was available.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #181 on: July 18, 2020, 03:37:39 PM »

I was on the 2016 trial.still waiting for this one...
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #182 on: July 28, 2020, 05:25:30 AM »

So anyway, I had notification around 2.35am from AAISP that my line had gone down/come back up. And would you Adam and Eve it....

(Spot the difference.  ;))

Before:

Code: [Select]
xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 21412 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66011 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 55815 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        5.9             6.0
Attn(dB):        13.5            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        2.2             2.2

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           18              150
B:              51              236
M:              1               1
T:              64              5
R:              12              16
S:              0.0296          0.3771
L:              17272           5410
D:              1093            1
I:              64              255
N:              64              255

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            676057347               2099310
OHFErr:         0               2056
RS:             1271855815              3042399
RSCorr:         1820509         25498
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    767947071               0
Data Cells:     1075736016              0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             11264           3344
SES:            27              0
UAS:            123             102
AS:             1287924

                        Bearer 0
INP:            3.00            0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          8               0
PER:            1.90            6.15
OR:             100.80          202.87
AgR:            55915.57        20203.27

Bitswap:        9633/9633               13123/13129

Total time = 25 days 3 hours 51 min 55 sec
FEC:            5516919         41426
CRC:            5101            3548
ES:             11264           3344
SES:            27              0
UAS:            123             102
LOS:            2               0
LOF:            16              0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 6 min 55 sec
FEC:            6               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            1               27
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 51 min 55 sec
FEC:            7192            372
CRC:            0               23
ES:             0               21
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            43068           1460
CRC:            0               150
ES:             0               136
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 14 days 21 hours 45 min 26 sec
FEC:            1820509         25498
CRC:            0               2056
ES:             0               1883
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
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After:

Code: [Select]
xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 21383 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60203 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60013 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.4             6.3
Attn(dB):        13.6            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        2.3             2.3

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              150
B:              244             236
M:              1               1
T:              0               5
R:              10              16
S:              0.0000          0.3771
L:              15757           5410
D:              1               1
I:              255             255
N:              255             255
Q:              4               0
V:              3               0
RxQueue:                96              0
TxQueue:                32              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         31              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           154             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              6.4000          0.0000
L:              40              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               1438949
OHFErr:         0               14
RS:             271135324               3291149
RSCorr:         44              126
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            548544          0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             5484825         0
RSCorr:         3               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         35              0
rtx_c:          16              0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        60001           0
errFreeBits:    8062063         0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    1016872002              0
Data Cells:     616668          0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             11274           3366
SES:            37              0
UAS:            160             129
AS:             8814

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            6.15
OR:             0.01            202.87
AgR:            60320.68        20203.27

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.50            0.00
INPRein:        4.50            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             79.68           0.01
AgR:            79.68   0.01

Bitswap:        606/606         283/283

Total time = 25 days 8 hours 57 min 59 sec
FEC:            5520839         41635
CRC:            10265           3574
ES:             11274           3366
SES:            37              0
UAS:            160             129
LOS:            3               0
LOF:            23              0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 59 sec
FEC:            0               6
CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            9               26
CRC:            0               5
ES:             0               2
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 57 min 59 sec
FEC:            11112           581
CRC:            5164            49
ES:             10              43
SES:            10              0
UAS:            37              27
LOS:            1               0
LOF:            7               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            43068           1460
CRC:            0               150
ES:             0               136
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 2 hours 26 min 53 sec
FEC:            44              126
CRC:            0               14
ES:             0               11
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
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 ;D

I know my line now has G.INP applied but not sure what the new numbers mean; eg is it now on Fastpath? How does it look to the educated eye?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #183 on: July 28, 2020, 08:30:34 AM »

Congratulations and welcome to G.INP!
You should be on Fastpath as I believe G.INP lines always are.
Hopefully in a few days your journey to 3dB on the downstream side will begin.
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grahamb

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #184 on: July 28, 2020, 08:44:01 AM »

3db? Even on an ECI cab?

Oh, hang on, the clue is in the thread title, isn't it....  :)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2020, 08:46:11 AM by grahamb »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #185 on: July 28, 2020, 09:23:20 AM »

Yup, I've been on G.INP on my ECI cabinet for 47+ days now with no interruptions at all and no 3db either. I suspect this is just the G.INP test at present and they will want a lot more testing before changing anything else. I hope they dont want to mess anything up just as much as we dont want it either.

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #186 on: July 28, 2020, 09:56:51 AM »

Is AAISP actively adding users to the trial or is this just a random lucky user added by Openreach?

Positive news that users are still being added I wish the trial rollout was quicker though.  I feel a decision for a full rollout may never happen and I'll have FTTP before Ginp on ECI!
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #187 on: July 28, 2020, 07:21:36 PM »

I'm with Zen. They told me it's down to OR and they couldn't request me to  be added even though I badgered them to sign up to the trial which they are now on...🙄🙄🙄
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #188 on: July 29, 2020, 07:20:05 PM »

AAISP say they have no control over who's added to the trial.

The ability for ISP's to add users manually went months ago with only Plusnet taking up that offer.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #189 on: July 29, 2020, 07:40:20 PM »

Do we know if / when the trial will end and or if they have had any issues ?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #190 on: August 05, 2020, 09:07:57 AM »

Awww....

Code: [Select]
Stats recorded 05 Aug 2020 08:56:01

DSLAM type / SW version: IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6F039v.d26a
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  7 hours 3 min 31 sec
Resyncs:                5 (since 19 Jun 2020 22:43:28)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  13.6 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 55143 20000
SNR margin (dB):        6.3 6.3
Power (dBm):            2.4 2.3
Interleave depth:        1079 1
INP:                    3.00 0
G.INP:                  Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0004 0.0112
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                1.12 5.15


 What's that about?  :'(
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #191 on: August 05, 2020, 01:11:37 PM »

Awww....

 What's that about?  :'(

There is another AAISP user on the forum who had G.INP on ECI and it was removed last night.
Maybe they have withdrawn from the trial?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #192 on: August 05, 2020, 06:01:57 PM »

I did a bit of searching and found this: https://aastatus.net/2127 . It's five and a half years old but I'm assuming the details are still relevant. All I can say is that my downstream speed saw an increase of 5MB, without a single downstream error, during the trial.

It were good while it lasted...
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #193 on: August 06, 2020, 11:09:54 AM »

AAISP say they have no control over who's added to the trial.

The ability for ISP's to add users manually went months ago with only Plusnet taking up that offer.

I was told this as well.

The problem is I was talking with them about it months ago at the time plusnet were adding users, AAISP off the ball on this sorry to say.  I didnt post it at the time, as was just disappointed, with the price point they at and their reputation for been in the lead in this sort of thing, and it turned out to be quite different.

Also the trial was suspended and then resumed, so that had an effect on things as well.

Cannot say I am too surprised at only plusnet taking it up though as the lead reason the last g.inp rollout got abandoned was the CP's lobbying openreach to cancel it because they couldnt ride through a short term increase of load on their technical support lines.  Its the old lets not upset the apple cart thing hindering progress.
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