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Author Topic: What are FTTP typical speed/packages..? (getting FTTP installed in street)  (Read 1772 times)

snadge

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Hi

BT Openreach is busy installing FTTP pods on all the junction poles in my street, the engineers said it was FTTP and it would be ready in about 2 months.

can anyone tell me, is it FTTP..? could it be G.fast? and what sort of prices, packages and speed you get from FTTP service on BT Wholesale?

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Noted last week in a relatively small town in N.I. I had occasion to visit that new "boxes" had been attached to all the distribution poles and to the walls of terraced commercial premises, rectangular in shape and slightly bigger than the existing copper system DP boxes, one small "cable" attached to the bottom entry point (probably fibre) with about 6 other unconnected ports visable, angled downwards at about 45 deg's.
The boxes look like they should have a lid attached but none had at this stage.

Did not manage to get a pic of any, assuming this is for FTTP service ?
The adjacent manholes had painted markings on the pavement as if cable (fibre) pulling had been a recent activity.
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Alex Atkin UK

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Openreach do not install G.fast on the poles, so it will be FTTP.  The fibre feeding the poles has a yellow stripe on it so is hard to miss.

As for speeds, I think this is already well covered on the forum.  There is no variability on FTTP, you get what you pay for, unless there is some temporary problem with capacity.  Now if wherever you are downloading from can hit those speeds is another question.
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The fibre feeding the poles has a yellow stripe on it so is hard to miss.
Have seen this type of installation, however, in the instance I quoted earlier the single connection to the new "boxes" was a very fine black cable (or fibre) emerging from the normal metal shroud attached to the poles or from a cable bundle where mounted on terraced premises walls.
Perhaps the fibre splitter (if this is indeed fibre) is situated in the adjacent manhole ?

Pity I didn't get a photo I know, never thought at the time.
If it's of any interest or significance, the location was Cookstown, Co. Tyrone.
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Have seen this type of installation, however, in the instance I quoted earlier the single connection to the new "boxes" was a very fine black cable (or fibre) emerging from the normal metal shroud attached to the poles or from a cable bundle where mounted on terraced premises walls.
Perhaps the fibre splitter (if this is indeed fibre) is situated in the adjacent manhole ?

Pity I didn't get a photo I know, never thought at the time.
If it's of any interest or significance, the location was Cookstown, Co. Tyrone.

From reading your description, I wonder if they are Connectorised Block Terminals (CBTs)?
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Does it look like this.?

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And the fibre cable like this.

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Look out for these on the pole.

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j0hn

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Look out for these on the pole.



That's just a fibre joint box.
Although they are used in FTTP deployments they could also be for distant FTTC cabinets or FTTP elsewhere and isn't really what they should be getting hopes up over.

Your 1st pic is what you should be looking out for with regards to FTTP.
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snadge

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yes it looks like the first screenshot. ill grab some photos tomorrow
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Yes, with respect to my observations, the "boxes" look exactly like the first pic (arrowed box) provided by busterboy.
Nothing resembling the third pic visable on the poles.

Regarding the cable details as shown in the second pic, looks like 6 fibres and a 3 core mains cable, wonder what's the concept here apart from the obvious fibre & power distribution ?
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I believe it is actually 3 fibre tubes and some steel strengthening wires, there is no power involved in FTTP (GPON P = Passive) deployments.
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I believe it is actually 3 fibre tubes and some steel strengthening wires, there is no power involved in FTTP (GPON P = Passive) deployments.

Correct.  :)

I remember seeing the original of that image. Due to the lighting, the colours of the fibre tubes are not true. They are actually blue, orange and green . . . the first thee colours of the standard "BOG Brown and Grey (or Slate)" quintuple, familiar to all with any experience of telephony circuity.
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I believe it is actually 3 fibre tubes and some steel strengthening wires, there is no power involved in FTTP (GPON P = Passive) deployments.

Ahh, from the pic the centre cable bundle looked just like a white 3 core mains cable (which would have been a bit strange) with the standard brown, blue & green colour coding.
I was obviously mistaking the 6 steel strengthing wires for the fibres.
Thanks to yourself and Mr b.*cat for the clarification.
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Its actually kinda mind-blowing as the fibres themselves are microscopic, they have a HUGE protective sheathing around them.
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