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Author Topic: master and slave now no longer can be used.  (Read 1710 times)

chenks

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master and slave now no longer can be used.
« on: June 15, 2020, 06:01:58 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53050955

are we now going too far with this now?
we now can't use the terms "master" and "slave" in software development?

what about in cars? with a the master and slave cynlinders?

society is going too far to try and be non-discriminatory.
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2020, 06:21:47 PM »

What are they going to call the masters of Oxbridge colleges?
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2020, 06:48:25 PM »

Politcal correctness gone mad. Perfectly reasonable term in these circumstances.

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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 07:11:23 PM »

 :lol:
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 07:50:50 PM »

Which part do you find so funny?
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 08:35:21 PM »

Which part do you find so funny?

The story and it’s other potential impacts such as, as you yourself suggest, on vehicle technology. :)

On a more serious note, I wonder, have some of the online dictionaries recently been edited?  In response to your post I tried searchIng  for ‘slave’ definition, and I tend to find mainly (not exclusively) the human, or rather inhuman, usages.

Yet when I consult the 30 year old Chambers on my bookshelf, in addition to the inhuman usage, it clearly Includes “a mechanism controlled by another mechanism, eg in computing”.
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2020, 08:56:55 AM »

Lenny Henry has kept a low profile during these times, wonder why he's not stuck his head out of his hole like he usually does.
Maybe it's because he was in the black and white minstrel show (which he forgave himself for!!!) and did whiteface in another performance. the word hypocrite springs to mind.

funny how all these words and TV shows weren't a problem 2-3 weeks ago, yet now they are the worst thing ever.
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2020, 11:17:21 AM »

are we now going too far with this now?
we now can't use the terms "master" and "slave" in software development?
what about in cars? with a the master and slave cynlinders?
Are telephone sockets to be designated primary and secondary and never master and slave?
Can email filters no longer have a whitelist or blacklist?
Will kitz allow our resident sheep to change his username?
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2020, 11:35:26 AM »

>>>> Will kitz allow our resident sheep to change his username?

That's a good one. I'll propose to the committee that we change his username to naughtysheep. :oldman:
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2020, 12:35:59 PM »

 :lol: :cool:
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 02:20:14 PM »

Politcal correctness gone mad. Perfectly reasonable term in these circumstances.

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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 02:26:47 PM »

...change his username to naughtysheep. :oldman:

naughtybutnicesheep ?
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2020, 04:22:52 PM »

What do we use instead of "blackball" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackballing)
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 04:59:13 PM »

It feels like we're in that sketch from the show Balls of Steel (Channel 4) called militant black guy.

He goes in to a shop and anything to do with race he jumps on and gets offended.

An example would be he would go to a coach travel shop and ask where the coaches were going to. The assistant would list off some destinations and when she said blackpool the guy become enraged with sirens going off. "you mean you have a pool where you put black people?".

Though today I suspect a lot of those offended and wanting to change things are more of a certain social class and white.
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Re: master and slave now no longer can be used.
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 05:39:57 PM »

Not wishing to detract from the dreadful plight of coloured Americans, even up to and including fairly recent decades and in some instances, present day.   If you ever have time to kill in Atlanta, I suggest a visit to the Martin Luther King Jr Historical park.  The visitor centre includes a very well presented museum, that opened my eyes to unbelievable horrors that had washed over me as a child. :(

But as applies specifically to slavery, my understanding is that apart from that fairly recent (few hundred years) USA history, people abused as slaves have been no particular skin colour.   In Roman times, was slavery associated with skin colour? 

More recently, WW2, slavery was imposed on captured enemy troops, by Germany and Japan, and I don’t think they were selected by skin colour.   I wonder whether those abused as slaves in WW2 would find the terms ‘master/slave’ , as applied to technology, offensive.  :-\
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