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Bowdon

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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2020, 11:52:03 AM »

Everything is just so much harder on Windows 10, I don't remember it being nearly this bad on 7.

I agree on that.

I think MS need to make feature updates separate to security/fixes updates for Windows 10.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2020, 04:22:17 PM »

I think they have now and your only forced to have a feature update when your current version is reaching the end of its supported period.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2020, 04:39:25 PM »

Its the fact they slowly are moving everything over to UWP and its such a vastly inferior platform.  Networking options are now spread so far across the OS and the UWP version of the IP configuration panel wont even let you enter a static IP address without a gateway or DNS.  ???  (I have dual LAN at the moment so Internet goes over Gigabit and a dedicated NAS VLAN goes over a 5Gbit USB adapter)

I guess I should learn some powershell, that might make things a little easier to force, but its the fact I can't do simple things that used to be so much easier in the UI.

The Windows 7 photo viewer was fast and efficient, the Windows 10 Photo viewer sometimes works.  Thumbnailing itself in the OS seems hit and miss, on Linux I set thumbnails to go into a RAM drive so they are wiped every reboot because they waste a metric ton of space and my CPU is fast so its not like thumbnailing a folders contents takes long.  I have a cron job on the NAS to wipe out Thumbs.db periodically in case Windows rudely does the nasty, but I shouldn't HAVE to do that.

In their quest to make things easier for novices (did anyone even ask for that?) they've made it a complete joke for people with specific use cases.  My mum has never stopped grumbling since going to Win10, there is nothing she needed improving on 7.  I'd have moved her to Linux years ago but that's still just a little bit too much of a transition for her.

I've probably missed a ton of other annoyances.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2020, 10:56:40 AM »

SSD trim has now been fixed with latest Windows update.. so I have set my trim to occur monthly now  :fingers:
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2020, 12:46:26 PM »

The main annoyance for me when it comes to the windows updater program is I've had to exclude quality of life updates because it keeps trying to update my nvidia driver, when I use geforce to update it manually.

The annoyance about nvidia drivers is they keep updating the driver when new games come out. But they also start changing things too. So the mind set is when you find a good stable driver, unless you want to play the latest games then don't update. But windows is always trying to force the update.

If there was a way to block the nvidia update I'd switch it back on.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2020, 11:29:08 AM »

Thank you for the info @parkdale

I used that program to hide the nvidia driver it kept trying to install.

Interestingly it was the same version of the driver that had tried to install 2+ years ago. When I was searching around the net I noticed the driver seems to try and install on systems that dont have any nvidia products. It sounds like its gone rogue  :)

For people using Windows 10 Pro version I used the group policy editor to set the 'Configure Automatic Updates' to 2 so it notifys me of the updates and I have to tick a box to install it. So it seems they changed things along the way probably to address the situation I was having. I think it just means I have to manually take a look at the Windows Update regularly to keep an eye on downloads.

The way I was blocking the nvidia driver before was using a group policy called 'Do not include drivers with Windows updates'. I had disabled it. So that blocked any driver that wasn't associated with Microsoft. The problem was it wasn't just blocking nvidia. It was blocking all my other devices, including Intel drivers etc. So I set that back to Not Configured, which was its default state.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2020, 01:25:48 PM »

I had a bit of a "Major Clanger" moment a few weeks ago, whilst trying to uninstall the last remaining Kaspersky program, Revo uninstaller has a scanner for gathering all affected reg keys.
So I hit the nuclear option :-[ bang went my Office activation and Windows 10 pro as well :-X on reboot it triggered the Nvidia driver you mentioned, so I let it update anyway then applied the latest version over the top.
So ... don't try this at home :blush: still Kaspersky has all gone now :fingers:

Office activation was already backed up... just copied back the C:/windows/system32/Spp folder... job done.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2020, 11:10:24 PM »

I agree on that.

I think MS need to make feature updates separate to security/fixes updates for Windows 10.

They do on enterprise LTSC.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2020, 11:11:35 PM »

The main annoyance for me when it comes to the windows updater program is I've had to exclude quality of life updates because it keeps trying to update my nvidia driver, when I use geforce to update it manually.

The annoyance about nvidia drivers is they keep updating the driver when new games come out. But they also start changing things too. So the mind set is when you find a good stable driver, unless you want to play the latest games then don't update. But windows is always trying to force the update.

If there was a way to block the nvidia update I'd switch it back on.

There is a way to disable device driver updates as part of windows update, I will post how tomorrow if I remember to do it.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2020, 11:19:07 AM »

There is a way to disable device driver updates as part of windows update, I will post how tomorrow if I remember to do it.

When I was looking around on a way to block device drivers I noticed there is a way to put the hardware id of the device in so it blocks drivers for that manufacturer. The only problem is it will also block non-windows update ways to install it too. So I wouldn't be able to manually download the driver from the nvidia website or have geforce install it as it blocks the hardware id universally, which is a bit extreme in my view. They should have just restricted it to the windows updater. There is also a tick box when inputting the hardware id that will actively remove any currently installed matched hardware device drivers from the system.

Is this what you was going to say, or is there another way?
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2020, 01:52:15 PM »

Ok so there is two methods I am aware off.

The first way is via group policies.

I dont have a windows 10 device powered up right now but this guide seems to have the method in written form.

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/disable-automatic-hardware-driver-updates-on-windows-10/

Scroll to this part of the guide "Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update"

There is also an option inside the system part of legacy control panel where you can choose to not download device driver updates, this I think also works but the group policy method is for sure the way to go.

The method you found with id's seems very hacky I wouldnt go that route, the official microsoft supported way is via group policy editor and wont affect manual updating from the hardware vendor.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2020, 08:54:18 PM »

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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2020, 10:43:06 PM »

yep thank you busterboy, thats the system control panel method.

I have never heard of the id hacking method before today, I think either the control panel method or GPO is fine, but I would stay away from hacking driver id's.
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