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Author Topic: Windows 10 Version 2004 released  (Read 1590 times)

jelv

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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2020, 07:07:07 AM »

In fact what I see may or may not be the same issue. I have no issue with the visibility of my PCs and laptop, they appear in both the navigation pane and  main pane (as both computers and media devices).

It's my NAS box that is odd. It doesn't appear in the navigation pane to start with even though I have permanent drive mappings on it which do show up (without any red crosses). It never appears as a computer and always appears as a media device. If I put \\nasbox in the address bar (or use the shortcut) it appears in the navigation pane and all the shares appear in the main pane. It stays visible in the navigation pane until I close and re-open Windows Explorer, but visibility in the main pane when Network is selected doesn't change.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2020, 09:09:32 AM »

As a matter of interest, have you seen the suggestion of using a shortcut anywhere else? I've been seeing this behaviour for months and it never bothered me as I could just enter the name. When you confirmed this was your issue I thought is there a simple way to get round it and as entering the name in the address bar works I thought a shortcut was worth a try - and it worked a treat.

Do you mind sharing the logistics of your suggested shortcut method ?

My WD NAS is certainly an effected local network device which does not display on Win explorer network tree until directly addressed, same applies to my DSLStats, RPi 3B, network PC's are more inclined to appear automatically but not always.

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It's my NAS box that is odd. It doesn't appear in the navigation pane to start with even though I have permanent drive mappings on it which do show up (without any red crosses). It never appears as a computer and always appears as a media device. If I put \\nasbox in the address bar (or use the shortcut) it appears in the navigation pane and all the shares appear in the main pane. It stays visible in the navigation pane until I close and re-open Windows Explorer, but visibility in the main pane when Network is selected doesn't change.

Certainly a more accurate account of what I have been trying to explain, same issue.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2020, 02:57:24 PM »

You need Show desktop icons to be on.
  • Right click on the desktop and select New Shortcut
  • Enter the location of the item as \\nasbox
  • Give the shortcut a name and Finish
  • You can now right click the shortcut and pin to startor quick access
You could also create shortcuts to subfolders on the device.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2020, 07:56:01 PM »

You need Show desktop icons to be on.
  • Right click on the desktop and select New Shortcut
  • Enter the location of the item as \\nasbox
  • Give the shortcut a name and Finish
  • You can now right click the shortcut and pin to startor quick access
You could also create shortcuts to subfolders on the device.

Ahh, so just a simple desktop shortcut, thought it might have been something more complex.
Did go down that route previously before installing the "FDResPub" work around as outlined in the MS forum link provided earlier.
Thank you for the explanation.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2020, 10:28:14 PM »

Itís actually a master browser issue I suspect. You can check which device is acting as master browser with nbtstat -a.

I would force the NAS to become the master browser by disable the computer browser service on all other devices. This is old technology but still causes glitches.

Think it will solve the problem as the FDpub doesnít help NAS boxes.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2020, 10:35:25 AM »

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Itís actually a master browser issue I suspect. You can check which device is acting as master browser with nbtstat -a.

Followed this line of investigation when the issue first occured but found that it did not consistantly cure the non appearance of local network devices on the Win explorer network tree, my WD NAS certainly being the most common absentee.

In my case the only solution that produced consistant and repeatable results was the "FDResPub" scheduled task work around.

From the MS community forum post as per link supplied earlier, some have had success by enabling remote desktop (Win 10 Pro option only) and/or disabling fast startup.   
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2020, 04:37:59 PM »

It is bizarre when you consider that very thing is why some people stuck with Windows rather than moving to Linux.

I probably should migrate the laptop to linux, its way more performant for general desktop use, the only thing keeping my desktop of it is I run windows specific games and apps on there.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2020, 08:08:02 AM »

It is bizarre when you consider that very thing is why some people stuck with Windows rather than moving to Linux.

I stick with Windows because I grew up with it, and know it, every time I look at Linux I end up coming to the same conclusion, that it's too steep a learning curve, and like pfSense there's too much complicated not fully explained information on the net. My brothers of the same opinion.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2020, 12:12:10 PM »

On Windows, new software package will either be an exe or an msi. Either way you download it, open it and an installer runs which will guide you through the installation package.

Linux fails for the majority because it's nowhere near as simple. Far to many options and alternatives just makes it bewilderingly complicated.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2020, 01:36:24 PM »

there is package managers now for linux so point and click or simple cli comand, in many cases its easier e,g. windows download firefox from vendor website and then manually install, whilst in linux its in the package manager
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2020, 11:38:51 PM »

They've released the hold - version 2004 is now ready for my PC.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2020, 12:11:45 AM »

I stick with Windows because I grew up with it, and know it, every time I look at Linux I end up coming to the same conclusion, that it's too steep a learning curve, and like pfSense there's too much complicated not fully explained information on the net. My brothers of the same opinion.

The irony there is I too grew up with Windows although admittedly that means I was still quite young when I first dabbled with Linux (late teens), but I find that all the faffing around they've been doing since Windows 8 has made it JUST as complicated, if not more so, than Linux.

As for the network shares not always showing up, I've had this problem off and on as long as I can remember, possibly even since Windows 7.  Its why I always have mapped my common network drives to drive letters.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2020, 10:22:57 PM »

It seems malwarebytes is having some compability issues at the moment.

I'm thinking it must be with the paid version.

https://mspoweruser.com/malwarebytes-performance-issues-on-windows-10-2004/

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Now, Windows 10 v2004 users are facing issues when using Malwarebytes. According to users on the forums, Malwarebytes on v2004 is causing devices to freeze, lag and is even preventing apps from launching.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2020, 10:44:03 PM »

I dropped MWB since my login to the forums and password appeared in Firefoxes compromised email address list. I still get nasties and spam to the address to this day.
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Re: Windows 10 Version 2004 released
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2020, 02:51:23 AM »

So... no deferring windows update for 365 days.... gone  :( only 35 days now

You can still delay updates for longer - see https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/237087/windows-10-pro-users-can-no-longer-defer-windows-updates for how
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