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Author Topic: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"  (Read 3009 times)

sebus05

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VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« on: April 03, 2020, 04:13:18 PM »

Ever since swapping ECI modem for 1312 in bridge mode, my kid cannot play Titanfall 2 (it does not connect to server, giving "Out of sync with server" error)

Suggestion here is to turn off QOS (which I did, as well as firewall, and completely blown iptables (bridge mode anyway) as per this

Yet nothing changes...

Anybody any ideas?

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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2020, 04:32:25 PM »

isn't it related to ports? did you try turning off upnp and setting firewall to medium?



 security>firewall
Medium      <-----------------------------
(Recommended)
 




network setting>Home networking---->UPnP State
UPnP : Enable  Disable
UPnP NAT-T State
UPnP NAT-T : Enable  Disabled
 

what other device you have? ECI as router?
 
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2020, 04:45:06 PM »

I have all disabled (firewalls, UPNP) - still do not understand why putting it in bridge does not auto disable all the other bits?!
ECI is (and was) a modem that I used. With it TF2 worked fine.

Routing is done by Mirkotik RouterOS (and that did not change at all)
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2020, 04:59:33 PM »

i think theres something about the router that worked with eci but not 1312 because if upnp and firewall is disabled on 1312 it will not cause any problem im pretty sure. i never heard zyxel needing to be messed with iptables or whatever that is. rarely does a 1312 need to be given telnet commands to change stuff like iptables. it's usually just a band aid to something in the UI. maybe the router UI ?

edit: don't forget the router does the ISP link so ports are on it and not 1312.
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 05:05:54 PM »

everyone has their fate..]

edit: if you're  in the end  sure it's not the router then it might be the 1312's config file. for example on mine i can clear ROM-D from the UI and i have version 17. i wonder what version yours runs? gaining supervisor access is usually easy [if you need to know how ill look it up to remember] and then you clear rom-d and then upgrade to 17 if not already then you do a reset to factory default config. [rom-d completely overwrites factory default. at least thats what i think. burakkucat said it comes on top but i doubt it. even if it does it still does so based on the version rom-d was stored by.]
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2020, 06:34:48 PM »

I assume the 1312 is connected to the LAN for stats?  In which case it may be broadcasting uPNP to the network which is being picked up instead of your actual router.

I'd actually never thought about that before, will look into mine as could explain why GTA was suddenly moaning about NAT problems.
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2020, 06:40:22 PM »

but i haven't heard LAN connecting causing that.. o.o

edit: technology has all sorts of bugs.. yuck !  ::)


edit2: maybe router needs a full config reset? thought about it? maybe it's "used to" the ECI instead of 1312?
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 06:53:42 PM »

I'm not sure any of us are big online gamers.  It only just occurred to me it might be what caused the change in GTA for me as quite frankly there are so many griefers in the game I'd rather I WERE in a session on my own.
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 07:07:33 PM »

yeah when playing with other people their energy/frequency/vibration always affects you eventually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU7dGxRCRoA

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--dKm3tD4jo
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 08:20:44 PM »

Network guy, so my 1312 was reset factory, reset, updated, deleted, supervisor password cracked, reset, new rom-d saved, reset etc
Been all over it.
Not a gamer myself (just kid doing it)
None of it makes sense, Mikrotik works fine, all its settings that I need, inc uPNP
Just not TF2

Run UPnPTest64 & 1312 is definitely not picked up as existing device!

TF2 uses that many ports:
    TCP: 1024-1124,3216,9960-9969,18000,18060,18120,27900,28910,29900
    UDP: 1024-1124,8125,18000,29900,37000-39999
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 08:25:06 PM »

does mikrotik run upnp or not? upnp sucks. it must be exploded away if it wasn't.

don't forget NAT can ITSELF be a problem. like i said it must be the mikrotik because i can't imagine 1312 having a problem if only the UI was used to configure and not fancy telnet stuff.
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 08:26:31 PM »

Yes, it does, other devices work through it just fine.

I even do not know if TF2 does actually use upnp
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 08:27:13 PM »

so mikrotik only has upnp? zyxel has the outbound firewall option and inbound blocked. that way no upnp is needed. maybe mikrotik can be configured that way?


i remember some routers in GunZ: The Duel had problems with the way GunZ worked with NAT in absence of UPnP. could be a NAT issue indeed. but usually ports first. in fact NAT can be meaningless if the ports are already open.

edit: i also mean gunz had a problem with NAT itself. sometimes even if ports were open. [maybe?..]
now that i remember, i turned off NAT in some router back in 2007 or something i dont remember, and enabled PPP IP as the internal IP.
the problem was some games simply did not work correctly so... routers in general can just act stupid. really simple.

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Run UPnPTest64 & 1312 is definitely not picked up as existing device!
it's not supposed to either. 1312 is invisible to the internet. there's no way it could be detected.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5nQOOszUcw&t=1403
i know, esoteric. unrelated of course.
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 09:31:31 AM »

As I said, i my whole setup I only changed ECI modem-->Zyxel VMG1312 modem
No other setup was touched (so how does it now make it Mikrotik config issue?)
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Re: VMG1312-B10A Titanfall 2 "Out of sync with server"
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2020, 09:47:35 AM »

because it's nat related? idk

analyzing at this point leads to no results because, well, if you try setting up the ECI instead of the mikrotik and it works - guess what, it's the mikrotik.

how to fix the mikrotik - idk. first try replacing the mikrotik. if this game is worth that.


edit: maybe the bridge mode on the 1312 has a problem with the way mikrotik works.
i'm tired of speculation though since low chance the 1312 is the problem. if it's not the 1312, likely something on the mikrotik.

edit2: i think trial and error is better than speculation. the "what if" and "but it worked!" leads nowhere.

edit3: so i wanted to find out how the UI on the mikrotik looks. i didn't but i found this sort of NAT stuff: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Services#Service_Ports
udplite, and stuff like that, means the mikrotik can have a configuration weakness that plays out with the 1312. because the 1312 is a simple modem. it's so simple i doubt it's the problem.

edit4: so what you need to do now is single out the mikrotik by replacing it with ECI and if the ECI works then the mikrotik needs to be configured differently. if not then the 1312 is indeed the problem.

edit5: alternative. did i mention this? forgot. do this:
Network setting>NAT>ALG
Application-Level Gateway (ALG) allows customized NAT traversal filters to support address and port translation for certain application such as FTP, SIP, or file transfer in IM Applications.
NAT ALG : Enable  Disable (settings are invalid when disabled)
SIP ALG : Enable  Disable
RTSP ALG : Enable  Disable

if it still doesn't work, then go to DMZ and add the router IP as the ip there. if it still doesn't then put it back to "192.168.1." [disabled]

edit6: security>firewall>DoS
Prevent DoS attack
DoS Protection Blocking : Enable Disable (settings are invalid when disabled)

edit7: i'm not saying the 1312 isn't the problem. i just need to learn more about it to maybe know what the problem with it is. if there's even a problem..

edit8: maintenance>remote mgmt> ICMP(WAN)> tick.

edit9: see NAT isn't activated on 1312. it's on mikrotik. https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=23138.0
NAT is what blocks stuff. it could be some routing misconfiguration between the two that the ECI did not have. ]

edit10: did you disable DHCP on the 1312? [disable it]. did the ECI also have 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 as address ? are you using just one cable from LAN to WAN? [remove any cables and VLAN interfaces and leave just group "Default" and one cable from 1312's LAN1 to Mikrotik's WAN].

edit11: i wish i could see the mikrotik UI. i can't find anything about it on the internet.

edit12: have you tried using another computer to try titanfall2 on it? i know it sounds stupid, but sometimes it's the computer. i know this from experience.

edit13: ok there's definitely something mysterious going on between the 1312 and Mikrotik. i couldn't find an issue with mikrotik according to what i googled about it so far. i have no idea what the hell is going on.

edit14: do other games work perfectly? especially ones that use UDP like GunZ private server, Rakion-Steam? because if they do it's something NAT related. some games mess with the router even if it's set up without NAT aka PPP-IP. leave out the 1312 because at this point i say it's sort of the problem but there's nothing wrong with it. Mikrotik NAT must be nuked/changed/fixed and you know what? NAT does the routing too. So it's not the bridge-mode 1312. bridge mode doesn't even do anything except link to the DSL. nothing to do with the internet part.

can you show me everything NAT in Mikrotik's UI? i don't know if the game uses UDP or TCP but it might not matter. sometimes even a TCP game can bug out if the NAT is a Restricted-Cone NAT rather than Full-NAT. an old router used to use that sort of technology. 1312 in router mode just has outbound-inbound type firewall.

and i'm sitting here wondering if i suck or this problem is deep. no one replying except me so i guess it is?
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