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Author Topic: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic  (Read 1234 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2020, 06:43:49 PM »

@Alex how did you discover the correct destination address to traceroute to?

NAT state table, or specifically on pfSense I just viewed the traffic graph page which lets you display all remote IPs currently being accessed.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2020, 07:25:15 PM »

I could look at the sessions/flows table in my router, but itís very noisy and you donít get domain names; Iíd have to reverse-lookup them. Thereís typically an awful lot of random ipv6 crud to look through, much of it not relevant.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2020, 11:44:37 PM »

A mischief deep within makes me want to contact Brussels with a concern that there is increased terrestrial TV news coverage of Coronavirus.  Iíd mention that these broadcasts are all in High Definition, whereas emergency services also have to compete for radio spectrum.

Whatís the betting theyíd ask the BBC to switch Freeview back to SD? :D
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2020, 01:47:21 AM »

The image quality was awful at times well before this on standard rate when there was a lot of incompressible content. At least itís good news for me in that I can download programmes faster on my slow 10Mbps d/s link.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2020, 07:46:54 AM »

I've just picked-up on this thread and I'm afraid this is something I'd very much label as 'first world problem'. The world in is crisis and we are worrying that our streaming services don't look quite as nice as usual! With the number of people having to work at home now I think it's absolutely right that bandwidth is being diverted to more important things.
If they were threatening to turn them off that might (only might) be a different matter, but for now what has been done seems a very proportionate response to me.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2020, 08:39:11 AM »

we never had bandwidth issues to being with.
BT showed that they were never reaching anywhere near their highest peak.

lets watch all these streaming services "forget" to increase it again once everything is back to normal.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2020, 02:12:33 PM »

I've just picked-up on this thread and I'm afraid this is something I'd very much label as 'first world problem'. The world in is crisis and we are worrying that our streaming services don't look quite as nice as usual! With the number of people having to work at home now I think it's absolutely right that bandwidth is being diverted to more important things.
If they were threatening to turn them off that might (only might) be a different matter, but for now what has been done seems a very proportionate response to me.
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You seem to be forgetting that vulnerable people are relying on this to cope with the stress.  Plus as already pointed out, there is no bandwidth problem that they need to mitigate here.  You can't make a big push for net neutrality and then simply backtrack on it, even during an emergency, without causing a fuss.  What's to say those home workers aren't also watching Netflix to relax in their free time?  Who are they to say my mental health is less important?

We need to make a big deal out of this so people finally realise THIS is the future they are asking for by ditching physical media.

The services also need to realise how insane this is when I could go and Torrent the same content at better quality than they are now streaming, and that doesn't seem to be throttled either.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2020, 03:05:12 PM »

I absolutely understand that people use streaming services to help relax and that it's good for their mental health. All of the services are still available at present, just not at the quality level they have been. The workers at home can still watch Netflix if they choose. I just think that at this time of international crisis there are much higher priorities than the resolution of online steaming services.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2020, 03:19:54 PM »

Maybe just me but I stop enjoying things once the macro-blocking reaches a certain point.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2020, 04:53:22 PM »

Maybe just me but I stop enjoying things once the macro-blocking reaches a certain point.

There is a point where it gets annoying yes, but that depends on what you are watching on I suppose. Its less obvious on smaller screens.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2020, 04:59:24 PM »

youtube, for example, have just changed their "auto" setting to default to 720p, but you can still manually put it back up to 4k (where applicable).
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2020, 07:15:00 PM »

I donít believe there was a problem that needed fixing; the important thing for ISPs is peak demand surely ? and I donít see that being any worse - homeworkers now working through the day will have a spread-out load, and the evening peak will be unchanged.

On the other hand, if the ISPs are concerned about total traffic quantity then that will have been moved from offices to homes but in the case of calling in to the office with a corporate VPN then you still have the into-office traffic too so all in all a 2x (or 3x) increase in total : home-Internet + internet-office + office-internet possibly.
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Re: Zen bandwidth usage during pandemic
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2020, 11:33:49 PM »

I donít believe there was a problem that needed fixing; the important thing for ISPs is peak demand surely ? and I donít see that being any worse - homeworkers now working through the day will have a spread-out load, and the evening peak will be unchanged.

Exactly!  I've not seen a single report from an ISP saying they were struggling under the load, all the major UK ISPs said they were well within their peak capacity.
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