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[tiffy]

And his biggest concern is to get the economy restarted.

In my opinion his biggest concern is to get re-elected !

[sevenlayermuddle]

Isn't the White House briefing led every day by someone who thinks he knows better than the scientists?

I have not heard him say that, but I don’t watch the briefings.

I do know that the early Imperial College model, that appeared to spur our own government into lockdown action, also modelled the American outbreak, with similar catastrophic predictions unless extreme suppression measures were implemented.   

Trump’s actions at the time were broadly consistent with the notion that he might be reacting to that report, although I daresay it was just one of many he was being given.

[sevenlayermuddle]

I’m personally finding Sweden’s progress interesting. 

They appear in many ways to be choosing different scientific advice from most countries, with much less strategy stringent suppression policies.  Yet the statistics (measured in cases/deaths per million population) don’t look that bad to me (strictly as a lay person) and may even be levelling off, without overwhelming the hospitals.

In my ideal world, that’s the sort of issue I’d like to see explored in detail with the media coverage, with statistics analysed by real experts rather than journalists, and debunked if appropriate. But I’ve seen very little.

Since journalism is the only source I can find, this one seems more balanced than many... but may still be utter tosh...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/sweden-coronavirus-death-toll-reaches-1000

[Chrysalis]

Have you registered with Sainsburys and Ocado?    Whereas most supermarkets just mutter vague hints about priority lists, these two are quite explicit, telling me categorically that I am not on the lists - which is true, in my case.

you cant, they using lists supplied by government

if you mean just been registered as a customer, im not on sainsburies as they closed up, but am on ocado and the rest.

[niemand]

This should get people going. Even more when I've installed the repeater in the loft.

[meritez]

This should get people going. Even more when I've installed the repeater in the loft.

A 5G mast, disguised as a house, lets burn it down.

[Alex Atkin UK]

This should get people going. Even more when I've installed the repeater in the loft.

Could that count as domestic terrorism? 

[niemand]

Could that count as domestic terrorism? 

Wouldn't be the first time that accusation could be laid at my door given I own the domain jihadist.me.uk

[j0hn]

Up until a few days ago I hadn't heard of anyone I know personally who had caught Covid19.
Then my mum messaged me a few days ago, her best friend Jane was seriously ill in a Covid19 ward.

I've known Jane since I was 10 years old.
A wonderful woman who had helped me many times over the years. She donated me lots of furniture when I moved in to my new home, most of which I still have.

She passed away on Thursday morning. 
I clapped for her that night at 8pm.
R.I.P Jane x

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/she-will-be-greatly-missed-tributes-paid-edinburgh-nhs-worker-who-died-covid-19-2541624

[sevenlayermuddle]

Sympathies,  j0hn

We’re relatively out in the sticks, nobody else in direct line of sight, and could easily think we were the only ones out applauding on a thursday.   Until we stop, and realise that what we then hear is not our own echo, it is others unseen people clapping too, from all directions.

Heartfelt thanks, to all of the Janes.

[roseway]

I'm really sorry to hear that, j0hn.

[jelv]

Wowser! The Sunday Times has really got the knives out for Johnson and the Governments handling of the crisis.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh

It's behind a paywall but if you register you can read two articles a week for free.

One of the most peachy bits:

Towards the end of the second week of February, the prime minister was demob happy. After sacking five cabinet ministers and saying everyone “should be confident and calm” about Britain’s response to the virus, Johnson vacated Downing Street after the half-term recess began on February 13.

He headed to the country for a “working” holiday at Chevening with Symonds and would be out of the public eye for 12 days. His aides were thankful for the rest, as they had been working flat-out since the summer as the Brexit power struggle had played out.

The Sunday newspapers that weekend would not have made comfortable reading. The Sunday Times reported on a briefing from a risk specialist that said Public Health England would be overrun during a pandemic as it could test only 1,000 people a day.

Johnson may well have been distracted by matters in his personal life during his stay in the countryside. Aides were told to keep their briefing papers short and cut the number of memos in his red box if they wanted them to be read.

His family needed to be prepared for the announcement that Symonds, who turned 32 in March, was pregnant and that they had been secretly engaged for some time. Relations with his children had been fraught since his separation from his estranged wife Marina Wheeler and the rift had deepened when she received a cancer diagnosis last year.

The divorce also had to be finalised. Midway through the break it was announced in the High Court that the couple had reached a settlement, leaving Wheeler free to apply for divorce.

There were murmurings of frustration from some ministers and their aides at the time that Johnson was not taking more of a lead. But Johnson’s aides are understood to have felt relaxed: he was getting updates and they claim the scientists were saying everything was under control.

Also, did you know we sent 279,000 pieces of PPE to China while the government was in it's misplaced complacency phase?

[g3uiss]

Sad news @j0hn. My thoughts are with you.

[sevenlayermuddle]

Wowser! The Sunday Times has really got the knives out for Johnson and the Governments handling of the crisis.

I don’t regard the Sunday Times as a source of facts, any more than I regard any other newspaper or TV show as a source of facts.

But even supposing this one, at face value, contained a single seed of truth, which I doubt.   What’s to be gained from publishing it?   In what way does publishing this nonsense help us to move forwards from where we are now?

And what doesn’t help may hinder.

There’s plenty of more useful stuff for editors eager to draw in the readers, such as vaccine research and clinical trials for treatment.    This is just not the time for political points scoring, they should be ashamed of themselves imho.

[Chrysalis]

I don’t regard the Sunday Times as a source of facts, any more than I regard any other newspaper or TV show as a source of facts.

But even supposing this one, at face value, contained a single seed of truth, which I doubt.   What’s to be gained from publishing it?   In what way does publishing this nonsense help us to move forwards from where we are now?

And what doesn’t help may hinder.

There’s plenty of more useful stuff for editors eager to draw in the readers, such as vaccine research and clinical trials for treatment.    This is just not the time for political points scoring, they should be ashamed of themselves imho.

Newspapers have always been like this, publishing toxic stories on a daily bases.  It is bad all the time not just when its attacking a government in power during a crisis.

There can be something to gain from this type of story though, governments can be shamed to act sometimes.