Thanks for the reply.
The idea of the two devices, is the AV , Firewall and the VPN is installed on the router with no need to AV, firewall or VPN installed on each laptop, PC, mobile or other household internet connected device. So saving money, but are they reliable or convenient, if with VPN forcing all connect on VPN , what about gaming. I'm thinking of the money savings if when compared multi use installed AV,. But if on a laptop on another network then your not covered.