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Author Topic: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup  (Read 5625 times)

Ronski

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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2020, 11:56:41 AM »

It's good that you've found a workable solution, only the other day in some BT document I was reading it warned builders to install network cabling to other parts of the house if terminating the fibre under the stairs!

As soon as your wife mentions decorating, that's the time start installing the hardwired network, well if we're going to decorate it would be silly not to install this important cabling..........
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2020, 03:48:06 PM »

802.11ax, 160 MHz 4x4 wireless bridge. Careful placement will produce minimal attenuation, permitting >1Gbps throughput.

I was wondering how long it would be before you considered the possibility of using a wireless bridge.  :D
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Accommodation reached with the developer. Bridge components, 10G switch and SFP arriving tomorrow.

See subject change.
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Accommodation reached with the developer. Bridge components, 10G switch and SFP arriving tomorrow.

I shall be watching, with interest.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2020, 05:16:27 PM »

Will run with one of the AX routers routing. When I get the second ISP in place will revert to the Ubiquiti kit.

Once I get the AX kit installed I'll iPerf it and see how good the link actually is. A 160 MHz channel should be good for 4.6 Gbit/s PHY rate, hoping for around 2.5 Gbit/s half-duplex Ethernet rate: more than enough for 2 x 1000 / 115 links.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2020, 08:35:41 PM »

I will certainly be curious.  Quite annoyed my nanoHD with a 1300Mbit down PHY and 1560Mbit up, rate still only does 700Mbit throughput in either direction on my laptops, despite my Galaxy S10 also doing the same with an 866Mbit PHY.

CPU load on the nanoHD is really low, makes me wonder if its a bug in the Intel AX200 cards in the laptops or Ubiquiti put some weird speed cap in the firmware.

Although I've long since given up trying to understand the weirdness that can happen with WiFi to Ethernet bridges.  On some WiFi APs in the past I used to struggle to max out my broadband speed, even though I could do several times faster than that to LAN clients.   I can't even begin to understand what weird network tomfoolery was going on there.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2020, 10:57:52 PM »

What model is the 802.11ax hardware? What’s the range of 802.11ax like?
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2020, 11:10:21 PM »

Going to be using a pair of https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/ Weaver.

They outperform AC as they use OFDMA. Will let you know how it compares once I've installed them.

Alongside these a 4 SFP+ port switch is going in. The AX11k has 2.5Gbase-T which I will take full advantage of once I've moved to > 1 Gb broadband on the WAN and will use immediately on the LAN.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 11:12:34 PM by CarlT »
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2020, 09:00:05 AM »

Going to be using a pair of https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/ Weaver.

They outperform AC as they use OFDMA. Will let you know how it compares once I've installed them.

Alongside these a 4 SFP+ port switch is going in. The AX11k has 2.5Gbase-T which I will take full advantage of once I've moved to > 1 Gb broadband on the WAN and will use immediately on the LAN.

Good god, I think a bit of Ethernet cable or thin fibre would be a lot less intrusive than those things :-)  Talk about designed by men for marketing to boys.  Presumably you'll be hiding them.  :lol:  Dread to think how much 2 of those will cost a year in electricity costs.

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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2020, 11:16:48 AM »

Going to be using a pair of https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/ Weaver.

They outperform AC as they use OFDMA. Will let you know how it compares once I've installed them.

Alongside these a 4 SFP+ port switch is going in. The AX11k has 2.5Gbase-T which I will take full advantage of once I've moved to > 1 Gb broadband on the WAN and will use immediately on the LAN.

Will be interesting to see if the firmware has improved since https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33220-wi-fi-6-performance-roundup-five-routers-tested as their tests seem to fall short of what I can get on the nanoHD using AC.

That does seem to contradict https://hothardware.com/reviews/asus-rog-rapture-gt-ax11000-router-review so I'm really not sure.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2020, 06:06:42 PM »

So, PHY rate is more than adequate. Can't reliably test the throughput yet: will update more next week.  :)
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2020, 06:15:14 PM »

Sorry Carl, please forgive me, being a bit slow here. What plugs into the 2.5G ethernet copper port?
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2020, 06:21:39 PM »

Found a bug in switch software - SFP+ was not auto-negotiating properly. Upgraded and fixed. Throughput now stable, was a duplex mismatch there.

The 2.5G port is going to a Mikrotik CRS305-1G-4S+ switch, Weaver.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2020, 06:32:19 PM »

And you have an SFP module for 2.5G copper plugged in to one of those slots?

If I ever get round to upgrading my WAPs I don’t have any clients that can speak 802.11ax anyway, but I could take advantage of 802.11ac wave 2. Dee.jay (hero :angel:), iirc, offered to sort out my Cisco APs for me, but I can’t get Janet to ever remember to post them off to him.
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Re: 10 Gb, Dual-WAN, segmented home / home office Setup
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2020, 06:36:00 PM »

Yes. It's a 10G SFP+ that can do 100 Mb, 1, 2.5, 5 and 10 Gbit.

Due to a software bug it was previously at 10 Gbit, it's now correctly negotiating 2.5 with the Asus.
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ONT: Huawei 1+1
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