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[burakkucat]

Mainly because in 2025, there will be no ADSL...

As discussed here, in a thread started by Weaver, that statement is not correct.

[Ronski]

I read that link to refer to BT's Fibre Broadband as FTTC, with FTTP supplied by Virgin Media...and the website seems to have not been updated since 2015

Am I missing something?

It is way out of date and they get the facts wrong, Virgins Project Lightning launched in mid 2015, so I very much doubt they were supplying true FTTP there in 2015 it would have been via coaxial cable. They also state you could get 100Mbps via FTTC, then go on to imply you can only get up to 38Mbps, they clearly don't know what they are talking about.

[Black Sheep]

That's fine - you know way more than I do - no idea how you find out that information!


Guess I'm waiting for Openreach / housing association... 

You wouldn't think so, judging from my performance here 

There are quite a few systems that can be viewed to determine what plant is located where ??. For instance, your internal DP (the white box in one of your photo's), appears on one system, but not another ... the one that would have told me instantly the required info I needed  .

But the penny dropped when I realised that the main system in use for both the external and internal workforce (ie: surveyors, planners), is relatively new and doesn't contain the data from your catchment area. Ergo, I then went looking at an older data-base and hey-presto, all was revealed.

There is sooooooooooooooo much data being input/extracted by tens of thousands of people, it is impossible to hold it all on one platform. The tricky bit is knowing where to look. 

Absolutely your next move is to have your premises re-surveyed by OR (via your ISP).   

[Alex Atkin UK]

I'm still not sure Openreach have a record of where my line is jumpered in the PCP after the LAST time they disconnected me and hooked my E side up to some Talk Talk customer. 

The Talk Talk customer got reconnected in a day or two as a line fault, my pair was left floating in the wind for a week because it was raised as a broadband fault.   

It only got fixed because eventually the engineer turned up to my house (as he had been given zero information) so I FINALLY had a chance to explain what the fault was, rather than them using pure guesswork and getting it wrong.

I do feel sorry for Openreach engineers, it seems they are expected to perform miracles with zero information sometimes.  Its particularly frustrating when both me and my ISP knew more than the engineer did about the situation, because Openreach didn't pass anything on.    As I was on Origin at the time in the early days of the ISP, I literally had the CEO camped at my PCP at one point trying to catch an engineer to explain the situation, but they never turned up on time.

In their defence, I think I was still on Digital Region and it seemed Openreach was ill prepared for that kind of LLU setup so EVERYONE was confused.  But it always comes down to poor record keeping it seems.

[niemand]

It is way out of date and they get the facts wrong, Virgins Project Lightning launched in mid 2015, so I very much doubt they were supplying true FTTP there in 2015 it would have been via coaxial cable. They also state you could get 100Mbps via FTTC, then go on to imply you can only get up to 38Mbps, they clearly don't know what they are talking about.

Yep. They trialed FTTP in Papworth Everard in 2014 and started deployment in 2016 having started HFC in-fill in Manchester and Leeds, before Lightning announcement, in 2015.

[ssmmdd]

So, ADSL2+ is working and my FritzBox 7530 is reporting I'm getting


5887 kbit/s down
946 kbit/s up


Which is more than I was expecting (2.5 down, 0.5 up.)


Abyone wanna see my DSL line stats?

[Weaver]

Yes please 

[ssmmdd]

Yes please

See screenshot attached.

[mofa2020]

That is really HIGH attenuation though getting 6mbps is pretty good for it,, how far do you think the exchange is ~?

[ssmmdd]

That is really HIGH attenuation though getting 6mbps is pretty good for it,, how far do you think the exchange is ~?

Apparently I'm 1.72km away in a straight line, so I'd at least double that.

[Alex Atkin UK]

That attenuation seems off to me.  My line was 3.9KM with 48.2 attenuation with part of that over aluminium. (at least that's what Openreach calculated)

There also AFAIK shouldn't be nearly as big a gap between upstream and downstream attenuation, although its not like you can always trust what the modem reports.

[mofa2020]

yes I think this attenuation is not correct at all, can you post the modulation settings in your router?

[ssmmdd]

I'm not sure this Fritzbox gives me the modulation settings.


Or if it does, I don't know how to get it.

[mofa2020]

I do not know about Fritzbox but I think it will be in the line settings, note that there may be some settings that needs to be hidden like service username.