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Author Topic: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP  (Read 1421 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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[Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« on: December 12, 2019, 08:53:11 PM »

I'm confused, one minute you've renewed with Plusnet, next minute you've ordered Virgin Media and now you're on g.FAST with some ISP we've never heard of before?
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2019, 01:16:19 PM »

You're going to be so bored when you get FTTP and have no line statistics to look at.

As far as the rest goes a recipe for disaster. I don't get a relatively light user's fixation with bandwidth beyond vanity / ego.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2019, 01:58:07 PM »

You're going to be so bored when you get FTTP and have no line statistics to look at.

As far as the rest goes a recipe for disaster. I don't get a relatively light user's fixation with bandwidth beyond vanity / ego.

I am not worry about no line statistics for future FTTP because FTTP is always on and no DLM. But, how did you know that FTTP will come to my area soon? I thought it will FTTC/G.fast for a very long time now until FTTP around ten years time!
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2019, 02:10:03 PM »

Quote from: Exascale Electronic
We've had a busy year investing in our national network. Bringing online both Wolverhampton and Telford, providing businesses and homes with affordable Full fibre Gigabit Capable broadband!

What's more Ofcom have awarded Exascale Electronic Code Powers enabling us to further our progress and investment in Telford to bring full fibre Gigabit Broadband to the masses across the district in 2020.

Coverage Areas (Phase 1)

    Hoop Mill, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TB)
    Kinley Drive, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SY)
    Britton Lock, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SX)
    Oxmoor Avenue, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SS)
    Wittingham Close, Hadley, Telford, (TF1 5TF)
    Patchett Drive, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SG)
    Oakworth Close, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5DP, TF1 5DR)
    Trenchlock 1, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SU)
    Trenchlock 2, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5SW)
    Trenchlock 3, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5ST)

Areas to be deployed in the near future (Phase 2)

    The Nettlefolds, Hadley, Telford, (TF1 5PF)
    The Nettlefolds, Hadley, Telford, (TF1 5PG)
    Castle Street, Hadley, Telford (TF1 6RB)
    Castle Lane, Hadley, Telford (TF1 6RD)
    Cricketers Drive, Hadley, Telford (TF1 6SY)
    Sorbus Avenue, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TL)
    Pyrus Court, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TJ)
    Blockley Road, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TG)
    Tilia Green, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TP)
    Buxus Road, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TN)
    Caldera Road, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5LT)
    Viburnum Way, Hadley, Telford (TF1 5TH)
    Hortonwood 50, Telford, TF1 7AA
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7AB
    Hortonwood 60, Telford, TF1 7AD
    Hortonwood 50, Telford, TF1 7AE
    Hortonwood 10, Telford, TF1 7ES
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7ET
    Hortonwood 32, Telford, TF1 7EU
    Hortonwood 33, Telford, TF1 7EX
    Hortonwood 40, Telford, TF1 7EY
    Hortonwood 45, Telford, TF1 7FA
    Hortonwood 50, Telford, TF1 7FG
    Hortonwood 35, Telford, TF1 7FR
    Telford, TF1 7FS
    Hortonwood 50, Telford, TF1 7FT
    Telford, TF1 7GA
    Hortonwood 66, Telford, TF1 7GB
    Hortonwood 60, Telford, TF1 7GL
    Hortonwood 1, Telford, TF1 7GN
    Hortonwood 7, Telford, TF1 7GP
    Hortonwood 8, Telford, TF1 7GR
    Hortonwood 31, Telford, TF1 7GS
    Hortonwood 37, Telford, TF1 7GT
    Hortonwood 67, Telford, TF1 7GU
    Hortonwood 2, Telford, TF1 7GW
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7LJ
    Hortonwood Industrial Estate, Queensway, Telford, TF1 7LL
    Hortonwood 37, Telford, TF1 7XT
    Hortonwood 2, Telford, TF1 7XW
    Hortonwood 2, Telford, TF1 7XX
    Horton Park Industrial Estate, Hortonwood 7, Telford, TF1 7XY
    Horton Court, Hortonwood 50, Telford, TF1 7XZ
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7YB
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7YE
    Hortonwood 32, Telford, TF1 7YL
    Hortonwood 32, Telford, TF1 7YN
    Hortonwood 30, Telford, TF1 7YP
    Hortonwood 32, Telford, TF1 7YR
    Hortonwood 33, Telford, TF1 7YT
    Hortonwood 40, Telford, TF1 7YU
    Hortonwood 35, Telford, TF1 7YW
    Hortonwood 7, Telford, TF1 7YX
    Hortonwood 31, Telford, TF1 7YZ

[Moderator edited to wrap the above quotation with [quote][/quote] tags.]

[Moderator note. See: https://www.exascale.co.uk/solutions/networks/full-fibre-broadband/]
« Last Edit: December 15, 2019, 04:12:22 PM by burakkucat »
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2019, 08:18:27 AM »

You're going to be so bored when you get FTTP and have no line statistics to look at.

As far as the rest goes a recipe for disaster. I don't get a relatively light user's fixation with bandwidth beyond vanity / ego.

This, anything over 40/10 seems a waste unless you are a business or gamer, or heavy online user.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2019, 08:24:36 AM »

This, anything over 40/10 seems a waste unless you are a business or gamer, or heavy online user.

I don't think 40 is a waste. With the number of people streaming these days, 40 is soon going to become "not enough" for most families/houses with multiple users.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2019, 09:42:47 AM »

This, anything over 40/10 seems a waste unless you are a business or gamer, or heavy online user.

Highly disagree.

40/10 gives about 36Mb/s throughput. A 4k stream uses up to 25Mb/s.

I was syncing at 42/7 until last week and it was very inadequate for my needs. I'm no heavy user, gamer or business.
Just 2 adults and a child.
I've gone with 100Mb on Virgin as the OpenReach network wasn't meeting our needs.

Max definitely didn't need above 80/20.
He could probably have downgraded to 40/10.

Huge generalisation to say anything above 40/10 is a waste and was the same type of stuff being spouted  when FTTC 1st came out.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2019, 11:39:15 AM »

Highly disagree.

40/10 gives about 36Mb/s throughput. A 4k stream uses up to 25Mb/s.

I was syncing at 42/7 until last week and it was very inadequate for my needs. I'm no heavy user, gamer or business.
Just 2 adults and a child.
I've gone with 100Mb on Virgin as the OpenReach network wasn't meeting our needs.

Max definitely didn't need above 80/20.
He could probably have downgraded to 40/10.

Huge generalisation to say anything above 40/10 is a waste and was the same type of stuff being spouted  when FTTC 1st came out.

Bang on.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2019, 03:06:18 PM »

I used to get fairly bad buffering on John lewis 40/10 service, so I carefully read all the T/C's and found they were "Managing the throughput" to 150k on streaming.... ???
So the only way to fix it was going to 80/20, no more buffering!
But since then, the goal posts have moved and now 40/10 completely unrestricted  :fingers:
A couple of weeks ago I had one leg dis on the line therefore only getting 13Mb down but still able to watch Netflix in UHD  :o so I thought I would check the bit rate, but it was the same as I normally get!
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Alex Atkin UK

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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2019, 08:57:36 PM »

Highly disagree.

40/10 gives about 36Mb/s throughput. A 4k stream uses up to 25Mb/s.

I was syncing at 42/7 until last week and it was very inadequate for my needs. I'm no heavy user, gamer or business.
Just 2 adults and a child.
I've gone with 100Mb on Virgin as the OpenReach network wasn't meeting our needs.

Max definitely didn't need above 80/20.
He could probably have downgraded to 40/10.

Huge generalisation to say anything above 40/10 is a waste and was the same type of stuff being spouted  when FTTC 1st came out.

I'm seeing bursts of 35Mbit watching Expanse on Amazon 4K HDR.  Granted, it would average out as lower more frequent bursts if my connection was slower, but it does decrease the chance of stalling/buffering if you have much faster than you need, especially if other people in the house are using the connection at the same time.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2020, 02:17:42 PM »

This, anything over 40/10 seems a waste unless you are a business or gamer, or heavy online user.

I was hitting peaks of 42Mbit watching BBC iPlayer in 4K last night.
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2020, 02:35:17 PM »

I was hitting peaks of 42Mbit watching BBC iPlayer in 4K last night.

No fibre for 40/10 will get 42Mbit, impossible. The max speed on fibre 40/10 are 38Mbit
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2020, 02:37:14 PM »

No fibre for 40/10 will get 42Mbit, impossible. The max speed on fibre 40/10 are 38Mbit

That was my point, I was replying to "nobody needs more than 40Mbit".
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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2020, 06:56:47 PM »


Nobody needs to watch  BBC iPlayer in 4K ?  :P :fingers: :lol:

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Re: [Split From] G.fast with Green ISP
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2020, 11:21:02 PM »

Nobody needs more than 640K RAM.
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