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Author Topic: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet  (Read 6099 times)

mrk26

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Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« on: July 18, 2019, 08:59:13 PM »

[Moderator note: This post and all that follow have been split off from the "OpenWrt (Chaos Calmer r46559) for ECI/r v1 & v2" topic.]

Can somebody please help me.
I flashed fw from first post and I'm happy with it but would like to try newest xdsl fw for modem only. I use windows 7 pc, can somebody write steps how to, please.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2019, 03:11:33 PM by burakkucat »
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2019, 08:51:14 PM »

Right, I found really nice and easy way to change vdsl firmware on these  :P
However after I upgraded FW to 5.7.11.5.0.7  still got "Virtual Noise Support: D: Not Supported — U: Not Supported" or this don't work on ECI cabinet?
I start thinking of flashing back Openwrt 18.06.4 and upgrade to latest FW but don't want to upset DLM even more, already have few disconnection during all these tests.
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2019, 06:19:50 AM »

Right, I found really nice and easy way to change vdsl firmware on these  :P
However after I upgraded FW to 5.7.11.5.0.7  still got "Virtual Noise Support: D: Not Supported — U: Not Supported" or this don't work on ECI cabinet?
I start thinking of flashing back Openwrt 18.06.4 and upgrade to latest FW but don't want to upset DLM even more, already have few disconnection during all these tests.

Hi mrk26, you will need to wait for DLM to realise you are now on the latest G.inp and vectoring enabled vdsl firmware, this can take a few days

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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2019, 07:05:03 AM »

The ECI cabinets don't have G.INP enabled and can't do proper vectoring at all.

Waiting a few days for DLM won't change that.
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 11:00:18 AM »

Well, something was activated on my line few weeks back, snr drop from 6db to 4db and spped increased from 69,something to over 70 (can't remember exactly). I didn't pay attention to the details at this time as I was doing something online and my line became very unstable, speed was all over the place and overal Internet was really crap, so rather check exactly what was it i just restart my eci modem. Unfortunately this didn't happened again yet so hard to say what was it. I did few test recently so guess will need to wait a little bit before DLM see my line stable.
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 11:11:37 PM »

Manage even to drop snr a little bit to gain bit better speed, looks like eci modem still can do something. :D

To @j0hn,
I got my new toy on the way (asus dsl-ac 88u) do you know if I can cap my speed on this one to get rid off interleave on move on to fast patch?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2019, 11:14:49 PM by mrk26 »
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 11:23:09 PM »

Manage even to drop snr a little bit to gain bit better speed, looks like eci modem still can do something. :D

To @j0hn,
I got my new toy on the way (asus dsl-ac 88u) do you know if I can cap my speed on this one to get rid off interleave on move on to fast patch?

Yes you can  :)

Well, something was activated on my line few weeks back, snr drop from 6db to 4db and spped increased from 69,something to over 70 (can't remember exactly).

It's unlikely anything was activated or changed but more likely there was a local outage or a DSLAM/cabinet reboot.

You connect before other lines on the cabinet at the target 6dB. As you connect before other lines that cause crosstalk, you sync higher.
When the other lines finally connect a few seconds/minutes later the noise/crosstalk they produce lowered the current SNRM to 4dB.
The target is still 6dB though. This is a very common occurrence.

The DLM only ever changes the target SNRM in 1dB increments.
It will go from 6dB to 5dB, but never 6dB to 4dB.

ECI cabinets have a fixed 6dB SNRM target on all lines as they don't have G.INP which OpenReach have decided is necessary for 5/4/3dB SNRM target.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2019, 11:35:47 PM by j0hn »
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2019, 01:10:23 PM »

That is probably what happened (DSLAM rebot) because line was very unstable. I dropped snr to 5db yesterday and when I checked in the morning amount of FECS errors was pretty much the same as on 6 dB not much any other errors. Wilm try to drop to 4db today and will check how line will perform.
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 09:37:25 PM »

To @j0hn
Finally got Asus DSL-AC88U, unfortunately in latest firmware SSH is disabled so I can't cap my speed at the moment.
My speed is actually quiet good and stable apart of this that I'm still on interleave, not to mention that modem with BCM chipset sync faster on ECI cab and run faster even on interleave than modem with Lantiq chipset :P
However there is some settings which I can change, I see that I can turn off SRA and what I realised I got a tone less FECS errors when disabled rather then enabled. So my question is this SRA is something what ECI cabinet use? Is this safe to turn of, I turned back on but then I see that amount of FECS errors increase like ten times  ?!?
Run it for hour without SRA just over 10k FECS in one hour, ruining with over 140k.
Appreciate your advise.

Apologies for questions maybe not related in generally to thread.

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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 11:05:39 PM »

Their debug firmware has telnet enabled. There is no SSH available.

If you complete the feedback section on the router UI you can request a debug version for telnet access.
They usually provide this.

I have a really old copy from April 2017 with telnet enabled.
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2019, 11:08:19 PM »

Thanks, didn't know that, what about SRA settings?
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2019, 12:30:13 PM »

To @j0hn
Do you know working commands on DSL-AC68U to be able cap speed?
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2019, 12:57:51 PM »

To @j0hn
Do you know working commands on DSL-AC68U to be able cap speed?

I'm not sure if the DSL-AC68U can do this.
It's a horrid modem that I recommend against.

On the DSL-AC88U it will be 1 of the commands listed in this thread:
https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,16427.0.html

so for a 60Mb down cap and 15Mb up cap it's

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xdslcmd configure --maxDataRate 60000 15000 100000 or
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xdslctl configure --maxDataRate 60000 15000 100000
1st number is down, 2nd is up. leave the 3rd number as 100000
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 01:00:58 PM by j0hn »
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2019, 01:12:20 PM »

Do I need to cap upload if my upload is already on fast patch?
My modem re-sync last night with fast patch enabled for upload, because there was over 7 millions fec errors downstream was caped at 68999 kbps, so I flashed fw with telnet and looks like there is no cap on download because it show 69077 kbps also I noticed so far amount of fec errors is not that bad, but just want to help DLM make right decision  :P

Update:
Quickly played with it and this one worked for me: bcm_xdslctl configure --maxDataRate 60000 20000 100000
Will see how will go now.
Thanks a lot @j0hn   
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 01:29:45 PM by mrk26 »
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Re: Asus DSL-AC88U and an ECI Cabinet
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2019, 08:24:53 AM »

Just quick update.
Finally caped to 45/15 that reduce all possible errors to acceptable minimum with good results.
After about 6 and half days DLM was happy with my stats and turned on fast patch. Looking forward to see how will looks like now when playing online  ;D

Thanks a lot @j0hn.

BTW is it wort to drop snr on eci cabinet with broadcom chipset like on mine?
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