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« on: April 19, 2019, 09:52:58 PM »

I was in the page https://kitz.co.uk/isp/ISP_rated.php and I clicked the Kitz logo in the top left corner, which is a link, and got a 404 error message from the site
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Re: 404
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 12:37:32 AM »

Yes, I can confirm that also happens for me. So you are not alone.  :)

The page upon which I am ultimately placed is --

https://kitz.co.uk/index.htm
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Re: 404
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2019, 10:29:49 AM »

It appeared to be happening on lots of pages and I am not quite sure what may have triggered it as I hadn't changed anything

I think it may date back to the site moving over to SSL, but I would have though that someone would have pointed out that quite a lot of the other links also stopped working, and I'm sure I would have noticed for some of them.

Hopefully it should all be working now.  Sorry it took a while, was struggling a bit to find the correct solution with a morphine head on and couldn't think clearly.  I managed to break the site several times first :(   
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Re: 404
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2019, 10:38:54 AM »

Further site anomaly,

This morning my very long standing Windows desktop shortcut to the kitz forum which has always been:
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/
initially informed, to the effect "can not redirect properly" and took me to the main site index page:
https://kitz.co.uk/index.htm

Subsequent attempts to reach the forum using the same desktop shortcut took me directly to the main site index page but without displaying the initial warning.

From the main site index page, clicking the "forum" tab just refreshed the same page, did not open the forum index/login page.

Had to modify my forum shortcut to:
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php
which now works as per original shortcut.

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Cross posted with kitz.
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Re: 404
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2019, 11:13:53 AM »

When I set up a web server with Apache, I automatically rewrote ‘extension’-like .endings of URLs so that if they were wrong things would just work. I aspired to switch to using ‘cool URIs’ that are extension-less for documents, that is getting rid of .html or .htm etc and especially death to .php, and instead always having /whatever/something-cool rather than /whatever/something-cool.html. It was a couple of lines of .htaccess with Apache iirc.

Sorry to hear about the morphine. I am on swigs of ‘oramorph’ (which sounds like morphine but I actually have no idea what is in it). It’s very good because it works very quickly. Janet was feeding it to me through the night so she is tired this morning.

Anyway, we can form a small club.
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Re: 404
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2019, 11:15:24 AM »

Further site anomaly,

This morning my very long standing Windows desktop shortcut to the kitz forum which has always been:
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/
initially informed, to the effect "can not redirect properly" and took me to the main site index page:
https://kitz.co.uk/index.htm

Subsequent attempts to reach the forum using the same desktop shortcut took me directly to the main site index page but without displaying the initial warning.


Edit:
Cross posted with kitz.

Should now be ok.   

You probably got those error messages whilst I was still trying to find a solution.  I did say I managed to break things several times first :D 

A simple redirect on index.htm to index.php ended up breaking lots of other index pages including all links to the forum and the wiki.  Still can't fathom out why, because neither have ever used index.htm.    The only side effect now is that urls show index.php, but a straight forward link to forum.kitz.co.uk should now work redirect fine.
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Re: 404
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2019, 11:45:22 AM »

When I set up a web server with Apache, I automatically rewrote ‘extension’-like .endings of URLs so that if they were wrong things would just work. I aspired to switch to using ‘cool URIs’ that are extension-less for documents, that is getting rid of .html or .htm etc and especially death to .php, and instead always having /whatever/something-cool rather than /whatever/something-cool.html. It was a couple of lines of .htaccess with Apache iirc.

I think it was trying to get rid of the extensions which broke some of the redirects.   Not sure because thats what I seemed to be struggling with.   Portions of the site still use .htm whilst others use .php.

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Sorry to hear about the morphine. I am on swigs of ‘oramorph’ (which sounds like morphine but I actually have no idea what is in it). It’s very good because it works very quickly. Janet was feeding it to me through the night so she is tired this morning.

Anyway, we can form a small club.

I'm on time release morphine and oramorph as a top up for break through pain.   Yes Oramorph is fast acting morphine, the downside for me was that it wears off after about 2-3hrs so you often find yourself in periods of waiting for the 4hrs to be up so you can take the next dose with pain going up and down over the course of the day. I found pain was constantly like this ^v^v^v^v^v when just on oramorph.   

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Re: 404
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2019, 12:00:16 PM »

Is that time release through a skin patch ? I am still on skin patch slow release fentanyl as well. But I never had anything powerful enough and fast enough to sort out sudden pain. But now I do and am on top of it for the first time in more than ten years.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2019, 02:29:16 PM »

@kitz:

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A simple redirect on index.htm to index.php ended up breaking lots of other index pages including all links to the forum and the wiki.  Still can't fathom out why, because neither have ever used index.htm.    The only side effect now is that urls show index.php, but a straight forward link to forum.kitz.co.uk should now work redirect fine.

Strangely enough, using my default browser, Firefox, the anomalies as reported earlier are still the same (worked yesterday), however, using my backup browser, Pale Moon, everything works normally as previous !
No Firefox updates have occured and I have not changed any FF settings recently.
Pale Moon appears to automatically add "/index.php" to the entered "forum.kitz.co.uk" URL.

Wouldn't be the first time that FF anomalies have been recorded, BTw performance tester for example, I have to use an alternative browser on a few of my on line banking sites due to various anomalies but still prefer FF for general usage.

Please don't concern yourself too much with this as the work arounds are very easy and cause no hardship.

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Everything works normally in MS Edge (Win 10) browser also, would certainly appear to be a Firefox related anomaly. 
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 02:35:48 PM by tiffy »
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Re: 404
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2019, 03:11:12 PM »

@ tiffy - thanks. :)

Is that time release tho]rough a skin patch ?

Morphgesic SR.
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Re: 404
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2019, 04:04:45 PM »

Very very best wishes to you.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2019, 11:50:10 PM »

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Very very best wishes to you

Remind me never to say anything good again about being stablish. 
A mix-up with my prescription left me being quite ill literally just a few hours after I'd typed the above response and for the next few days... and reminds you just how volatile you can be, in that not all morphine prescriptions are quite the same. 

Typical that it happened over Bank Holiday w/e and despite my GP investigating and sending out a new emergency prescription on Tues, it's still taking a while to settle back to normal.   I'm sure you know & appreciate the side effects of morphine.  I didn't notice at first because the active ingredients were still the same.  I did however have a crash course of learning the hard way, there's a massive pharmacokinetics difference between CR and SR  :(    Be warned if you do ever get put on CR that the 2 are not considered interchangeable.
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Re: 404
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2019, 11:58:36 PM »

Yes, I have had them mess my drugs up (intentionally) and it was horrible and frightening, and I went totally bonkers.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2019, 12:00:03 AM »

. . . there's a massive difference between CR and SR  :( 

Yes, indeed. That should be flagged up as a serious mistake, which should be investigated.  :o
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2019, 01:19:17 AM »

>> which should be investigated

It was.  I'd phoned up Tues morning first thing to report not being well.   They phoned back Tues late afternoon to tell me what had happened and to say they were sending an emergency prescription through to my local chemist.     I'm beginning to get the feeling I need to be a medic to understand what the heck I'm being prescribed. 
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