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Author Topic: ECI vs Huawei  (Read 2352 times)

S.Stephenson

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ECI vs Huawei
« on: March 02, 2019, 10:05:19 AM »

These aren't strictly speaking comparable lines but the 2nd line which is now Huawei used to perform worse than the first line.

Sufficed to say I'm attempting to get my primary line onto the Huawei.

Some of the improvement will be down to the ~50m reduction in line length due to how the cabinets are set up.

ECI
DSLAM type / SW version:   IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    13 days 16 hours 20 min 50 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 02 Mar 2019 09:59:31)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     14.2      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not monitored      
Connection speed (kbps):   56173      18659
SNR margin (dB):           6.3      6.0
Power (dBm):               4.6      4.6
Interleave depth:          1      1
INP:                       0      0
G.INP:                     Not enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)   

Huawei
DSLAM type / SW version:   BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    2 days 6 hours 3 min 15 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 02 Mar 2019 10:00:17)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     14.4      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not monitored      
Connection speed (kbps):   72213      19999
SNR margin (dB):           4.2      15.4
Power (dBm):               13.9      6.8
Interleave depth:          8      1
INP:                       50.00      0
G.INP:                     Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      
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vultura

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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2019, 02:04:10 PM »

Interesting results.

Different modems or routers?

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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2019, 02:19:33 PM »

Sufficed to say I'm attempting to get my primary line onto the Huawei.

Change the first line to ADSL, then back to VDSL, you should hopefully be on the Huawei then.

Nice difference between the two.
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2019, 04:58:29 PM »

Good improvement but if the Huwaii is a brand new cabinet it does make me wonder that when more users are on the cabinet and crosstalk is activated how much of a real difference there will be?  Considering Ginp and 3db I would have expected a bigger difference perhaps they haven't kicked into action yet?  Would be interesting to see if fastpath can be achieved and what the max attainable speeds are between the cabinets.
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 06:10:09 PM »

There will be less crosstalk on the tie pairs (a relatively short distance) with low take up on the new cabinet, but the rest of the line will be no different.
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S.Stephenson

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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2019, 06:34:58 PM »

Interesting results.

Different modems or routers?

Both on HG612

Change the first line to ADSL, then back to VDSL, you should hopefully be on the Huawei then.

Nice difference between the two.

ADSL activates on the 6th with a monthly contract so i can switch.
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2019, 06:37:59 PM »

Both on HG612

ADSL activates on the 6th with a monthly contract so i can switch.

Hope it goes to plan for you.

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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2019, 06:50:28 PM »

There will be less crosstalk on the tie pairs (a relatively short distance) with low take up on the new cabinet, but the rest of the line will be no different.

Looking at the QLN the higher frequencies seem to show this.

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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 09:37:08 AM »

Let us know what the outcome is when you switch back to VDSL  :fingers:
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2019, 10:03:58 PM »

Quick update im back on ADSL on the first line with a switching date back to VDSL of 22/3.

Also switched over to my Zytel VMG8924-B10A and the 3dB profile has been applied.

Code: [Select]
xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 23262 Kbps, Downstream rate = 76700 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 76018 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        3.4             7.4
Attn(dB):        14.6            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        13.9            6.6

                        VDSL2 framing
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MSGc:           -6              26
B:              243             237
M:              1               1
T:              0               42
R:              10              16
S:              0.0000          0.3781
L:              19881           5374
D:              8               1
I:              254             127
N:              254             254
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V:              0               0
RxQueue:                60              0
TxQueue:                20              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         20              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           154             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              6.4000          0.0000
L:              40              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               917427
OHFErr:         20              20
RS:             141939096               4155203
RSCorr:         5069            66
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            226739          0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             2266770         0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         259647          0
rtx_c:          223             0
rtx_uc:         191             0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         18              0
minEFTR:        76028           0
errFreeBits:    4221764         0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    532377897               0
Data Cells:     42541724                0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             18              18
SES:            0               0
UAS:            33              33
AS:             3642

                        Bearer 0
INP:            48.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            3.98
OR:             0.01            64.22
AgR:            76095.88        20063.54

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.50            0.00
INPRein:        4.50            0.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             79.68           0.01
AgR:            79.68   0.01

Bitswap:        855/855         258/258

Total time = 1 hours 1 min 15 sec
FEC:            5069            66
CRC:            20              20
ES:             18              18
SES:            0               0
UAS:            33              33
LOS:            0               0
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LOM:            0               0
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CRC:            0               1
ES:             0               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            1736            25
CRC:            7               5
ES:             6               5
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
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LOM:            0               0
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FEC:            5069            66
CRC:            20              20
ES:             18              18
SES:            0               0
UAS:            33              33
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 1 hours 41 sec
FEC:            5069            66
CRC:            20              20
ES:             18              18
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2019, 08:11:15 PM by S.Stephenson »
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 06:43:45 PM »

My other line has managed to end up on BDCM

Code: [Select]
DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6F039v.d26a
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  0 hour 4 min 44 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 22 Mar 2019 18:41:53)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  13.9 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 54212 19273
SNR margin (dB):        6.1 6.0
Power (dBm):            13.9 4.3
Interleave depth:        1061 1
INP:                    3.00 0
G.INP:                  Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.0021
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 2.11

Am I correct in thinking this line will reach around 74 when g.inp+ 3dB kicks in.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 06:56:36 PM by S.Stephenson »
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 09:59:59 PM »

I'd have estimated around that figure.

Between 72Mb - 75Mb.
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2019, 09:21:36 PM »

G.inp has kicked in after 2 days

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Stats recorded 24 Mar 2019 21:20:33

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xa48c (164.140) / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6F039v.d26a
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  1 hour 20 min 56 sec
Resyncs:                1 (since 24 Mar 2019 20:56:30)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  13.8 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 62731 19202
SNR margin (dB):        6.4 6.0
Power (dBm):            13.9 3.9
Interleave depth:        8 1
INP:                    49.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 2.8504
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 1721
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2019, 04:55:38 PM »



ADSL activates on the 6th with a monthly contract so i can switch.

I'm considering trying to get moved from ECI to Huawei (Installed to increase capacity). Which ISP did you use for ADSL and were there any exit fee's even though it was a monthly contract? Cheers
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Re: ECI vs Huawei
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2019, 07:11:53 PM »

If you have a contract with your ISP you'll have to pay that.

Switching from the dsl didn't cost me anything and I did that with the no contract option with directsavetelecom.

If your dsl speeds aren't terrible then nowtv broadband would work too they also have a no contract option.
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