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Author Topic: Magical Filters  (Read 4041 times)

J.Man

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Magical Filters
« on: June 17, 2008, 04:50:59 PM »

Hi all, I know this may seem wierd but I think I have Magical filters below are the stats I got on both of those ADSL Nation Filters I have :

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 8,128
 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 65.5 / 1.32
 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.5
 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 22.0 / 38.0
 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 24.0 / 9.5

Looks alright but now watch what I get on the filters that should be broken because I spilt coffee on them :

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 8,128
 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 5.55 / 64.06
 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.5
 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 17.0 / 23.5
 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 24.0 / 16.5

And I have tried it on next doors phone line practically similar results, I have used 3 routers, 2 ADSL Nation Filters and 2 Cheapo Filters I bought from the Market.

Suprisingly the Cheapo's remove a lot of interference.
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wrs589

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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 05:13:58 PM »

if thats correct ill be dunking mine in some coffee asap
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J.Man

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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 05:33:58 PM »

I'll look further into the affect of hot Breakfast drinks on ADSL systems, I'm going to conduct some more tests on this and If I see good results I may be onto something. Although I would suggest dunking Filters into coffee Wrs589 well atleast until i get proper results.
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 08:31:46 PM »

Experiment Results :

Houses Tested = 16
Coffee Affected Filters used = 2
ADSL Nation Filters used   = 2
Range of Attenuation on Coffee Filters = 23.5 - 25.5 [db]
Range of Attenuation on ADSL Ntn Filters = 28.0 - 34.5 [db]
Range of distances from Exchange = 800Metres - 1.3Km

So anyone please, please please conduct some experiments oh and I opened up the coffee affected filter and it seems the coffeee has stuck to a red wire and a black cylinder.
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2008, 09:12:44 AM »

Oh damm, they're all going to suss the adsl2 equipment in the exchange is really a coffiee perculator with a modem dunked in it  :-X better tell the management......

Ok I'm going to put a suggestion in, instead of dessicant packs in all joints in the telephone network, a spoonfull of instant coffee instead (Was normal or decaff Jman ?)   :lol:

Well at least it gives a better result that pet-pee
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 03:42:48 PM »

I believe it was this kind of Nescafe, I'm going to try out the affect of breakfast items on a filter :P but first I better go to the local Tesco  ;D 

Oh damm, they're all going to suss the adsl2 equipment in the exchange is really a coffiee perculator with a modem dunked in it  :-X better tell the management......

 :lol: I could make a hell of a lot of money off this



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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 08:58:59 PM »

New Nescafé ADSL filters...

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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2008, 09:22:35 PM »

 :lol: :lol: nice spotting Mr Chris :P
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 09:22:42 AM »

 :lol: @ the coffee filter  :lol:
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 04:09:40 PM »

Oh hey Kitz is back  :clap:
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 01:06:35 PM »

White and Sugar?  :D

If you want to send one to me I'll try it on my line if you like? I have a very high line attenuation (55db, if I remember correctly). I have opened up an ADSL filter I have here and I see the red wire and the black cylinders, which one of thse has the coffee on? The one nearer the red or green wire?

Alternatively you could post a picture up of the modified inside please? Also please can we have the secret recipe of how many sugars and whether you had milk/cream?

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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2008, 09:50:06 AM »

sometimes i got to chnage my IP num hahha very dull of me hahha
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2008, 10:05:38 AM »

lol im surprised you guys haven’t heard about coffee filters before ;)

Seriously though I would be very interested to find out what cased this, and does it actually really improve the attenuation or is it artificially reporting it as lower. Your line is quite good so I suppose you would be limited to recording the DMT graph to see what each bin is doing with each filter. Though if you know someone with a longer line it could be worth putting one of these filters on and see if it actually improves their sync rate :)

Would love to see some high res pictures of the filters effected and if possible an unaffected one :)
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 01:27:18 PM »

I wonder if the orientation of a filter would alter things. I suspect the fact the coils are at 90 degrees to each other in side the filters is intentional
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Re: Magical Filters
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 03:59:19 PM »

I just bought a few more ADSL filters from the same market stall, the same brand and I'm trying to add liquids to black the same cylinders and wires and the coffee Flavoured ones, at the moment this is in BETA Testing and Im hoping for a sponsorship Deal from Nescafe  ;D they said they'd get back to me
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