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[renluop]

According to https://www.cable.co.uk/broadband/reviews/john-lewis-broadband/#routerinstallation dated 12/2018 only fibre gets the Zyxel.

[j0hn]

Looking at the link renluop posted shows they provide the VMG8924-B10D.

I'm not familiar with that particular model and how to obtain the Supervisor password.
I don't recall any threads on here with that model.

I'm pretty sure we'd help get it de-JohnLewis'd (lolwut) in no time.

[johnson]

Looking at the link renluop posted shows they provide the VMG8924-B10D.

I'm not familiar with that particular model and how to obtain the Supervisor password.
I don't recall any threads on here with that model.

Ejs recently spotted that the VMG8924-B10D uses the same kernel module and dsl.phy as the VMG3925 which uses the favoured BCM63168:
https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,23072.msg391588.html#msg391588

Not confirmed, but points to it being a decent device.

[renluop]

Looking at the link renluop posted shows they provide the VMG8924-B10D.

I'm not familiar with that particular model and how to obtain the Supervisor password.
I don't recall any threads on here with that model.

I'm pretty sure we'd help get it de-JohnLewis'd (lolwut) in no time.

That's a change; it used to be the B10-A, for which you guys have given me oodles of help in de-JohnLewising recently.

[aesmith]

is the Zyxel 8924 running stock firmware or JL firmware? if its JL firmware then is the Busybox shell accessible for DSLstats?

I've got an ex-John Lewis 8924 and it appears completely stock, and works perfectly with DSLstats.  No problem resetting it for my ISP.

[snadge]

thanks guys

wonder what the differences are between 10A and 10D..?  I thought it was locale (i.e. EU vs UK or something)

EDIT: out of interest, is the RJ-11 light on the 8924-B10A supposed to be ORANGE when connected..?  mine is, all other lights are green
EDIT2: after a quick look at the B10D manual the RJ-11 light is supposed to be green for VDSL and orange for ADSL... im on VDSL and have an orange light lol

[aesmith]

Is that maybe the wrong way round?  Our VMG-8924-B10A shows all green in normal operation on ADSL.

[j0hn]

The D are completely different devices.

The VMG8x24-B10A devices are no longer manufactured.
They were replaced by the VMG8x24-B10D.

The D models of their equivalent A models tend to have very similar (if not identical) specifications to each other.

In most cases the D models are made cheaper than their A equivalent.
The A's usually have a BCM63168 chipset while the D's usually have a budget Broadcom chipset like the BCM63381.
The 3rd number in bold points to being 1 of Broadcoms budget chipsets.
The D's also don't have the extra common mode noise filter found in some A's

As mentioned earlier ejs has looked up the VMG8924-B10D and confirmed it has a BCM63168.
We would need to see a picture of the circuit board to tell if the additional noise filter is present.
The fact it has a BCM63168 would be enough for me to use the device.

My ZyXEL devices have an orange light when synced to VDSL2

[snadge]

thanks for the clarification J0hn.

weird they make some B10D devices with the cheaper/budget BCM63381 chipset and some with the BCM63168, I just read on DevWiki about the third Broadcom digit, if it's a 3 this informs you that it is a budget SoC.

[parkdale]

A friend of mine has just signed up to JL fibre last week, and was sent a VMG-8924-B10A..... 

[bobpullen]

Looking at the link renluop posted shows they provide the VMG8924-B10D.

Not the case. At the time of writing we still ship the VMG8924-B10A for FTTC. The image they're using looks like a VMG3925 to me.
For ADSL, we ship a Sagemcom 2704n.

[renluop]

Bob! A commercial  decision no doubt to ship the ZyXEL to discerning upmarket JLPers,  it's a pity the plebs can't be treated the same though.

The Hub 1 is a donkey compares with the ZyXEL.

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Up 5489 Down 26435 ZyXEL vmg8924 B10-A


[bobpullen]

I take it you're connected to a Huawei CAB? Probably be less of a difference on an ECI DSLAM. I think it's largely accepted the Broadcom DSL chipset in the ZyXEL is the better of the two. Certainly something we'll consider for any successor to the Hub One.

[j0hn]

Not the case. At the time of writing we still ship the VMG8924-B10A for FTTC. The image they're using looks like a VMG3925 to me.
For ADSL, we ship a Sagemcom 2704n.

Thanks for the clarification.

The image on that page is definitely the VMG8924-B10D which is what made me think JL had switched to the newer model.

I'm assuming they purchased a fair few of the A's and still have plenty stock.

[snadge]

That 2704n is poor spec wise, no VDSL, no 5Ghz, no Gbit LAN, no USB, single core, old chipset - according to ISPreview its a Broadcom 6318 SoC, there is a V2 model that has a Broadcom 6328 SoC (6318 + Gbit Ethernet).