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Author Topic: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?  (Read 6973 times)

boost

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Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« on: January 31, 2019, 01:30:47 AM »

Noticed my ping had increased tonight.

11ms -> 19ms

Had a peek at the modem to find I am now synched at 70 something instead of 40. Vaguely remember Sky saying I was getting upgraded several months ago and it would be cheaper. OK, cool.

Stats appear to be:

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Stats recorded 31 Jan 2019 01:27:32

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xb12d (177.45) / v0xb12d
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  0 hour 47 min 28 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 31 Jan 2019 01:23:30)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  12.7 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 71814 20000
SNR margin (dB):        6.3 13.2
Power (dBm):            13.3 -2.7
Interleave depth:        1196 1
INP:                    3.00 0
G.INP:                  Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0001 0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 0




Interleave depth:          1196      1
INP:                       3.00      0
G.INP:                     Not enabled      Not enabled



I hope this is temporary? :)
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2019, 08:30:43 AM »

Has it been DLM resetted by Sky?
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2019, 10:28:06 AM »

You have been upgraded to 80/20 FTTC, this change causes a DLM reset so G.INP is removed but should come back on in a couple of days. You should then get near full (80 Mbps) download sync speed.
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2019, 05:32:10 PM »

Cheers chaps.

Some more stats since I plugged dslstats in, more as a reminder to myself I guess.

Looks like I get a few (8) upstream CRCs/ES per hour. My internal wiring perhaps?


Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 31711 Kbps, Downstream rate = 82404 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 71814 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.1 13.5
Attn(dB): 12.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.3 -2.7
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 15 20
B: 60 239
M: 1 1
T: 64 64
R: 14 0
S: 0.0270 0.3819
L: 22200 5028
D: 1196 1
I: 75 120
N: 75 240
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 46505394 1675352
OHFErr: 0 144
RS: 338954914 3079184
RSCorr: 12148 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 4069339151 0
Data Cells: 275554871 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 133
SES: 0 0
UAS: 22 22
AS: 60568

Bearer 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 1.30 6.13
OR: 128.99 33.91
AgR: 71942.97 20033.74

Bitswap: 27173/27173 42/42

Total time = 16 hours 49 min 50 sec
FEC: 12148 0
CRC: 0 144
ES: 0 133
SES: 0 0
UAS: 22 22
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 4 min 50 sec
FEC: 315 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 379 0
CRC: 0 3
ES: 0 3
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 16 hours 49 min 50 sec
FEC: 12148 0
CRC: 0 144
ES: 0 133
SES: 0 0
UAS: 22 22
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 16 hours 49 min 27 sec
FEC: 12148 0
CRC: 0 144
ES: 0 133
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#


I've also had the landline plugged in this week which is never normally attached so I guess that may have not helped. Detached since this monitoring started, though.
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 05:41:38 PM »

DLM will turn on your G.INP within next few days. Usually after 2-3 days of remain stable. You should see full 80Meg no problem.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 05:44:11 PM by adslmax »
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 01:02:57 AM »

4 days since last resync. No change.

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xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 31900 Kbps, Downstream rate = 82176 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 71814 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.1 13.5
Attn(dB): 12.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.3 -2.7
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 15 20
B: 60 239
M: 1 1
T: 64 64
R: 14 0
S: 0.0270 0.3819
L: 22200 5028
D: 1196 1
I: 75 120
N: 75 240
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 266322442 1851371
OHFErr: 61 1662
RS: 3889122463 4059231
RSCorr: 154901 0
RSUnCorr: 3363 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 928 0
OCD: 10 0
LCD: 10 0
Total Cells: 655396671 0
Data Cells: 2541586608 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 9 1453
SES: 0 0
UAS: 22 22
AS: 346856

Bearer 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 1.30 6.13
OR: 128.99 33.91
AgR: 71942.97 20033.74

Bitswap: 177803/177803 244/245

Total time = 1 days 21 min 18 sec
FEC: 154901 0
CRC: 61 1662
ES: 9 1453
SES: 0 0
UAS: 22 22
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 6 min 18 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 667 0
CRC: 0 2
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 21 min 18 sec
FEC: 667 0
CRC: 0 3
ES: 0 3
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 37990 0
CRC: 41 323
ES: 5 292
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 4 days 20 min 55 sec
FEC: 154901 0
CRC: 61 1662
ES: 9 1453
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 02:00:32 AM »

Resync. No difference.

Resync capped. Worse? :P

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xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 31771 Kbps, Downstream rate = 83140 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 14997 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59993 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 9.3 16.4
Attn(dB): 12.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.3 -2.9
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 14 29
B: 47 31
M: 1 1
T: 64 64
R: 14 2
S: 0.0255 0.0678
L: 19480 4009
D: 1273 1
I: 62 34
N: 62 34
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 494513 106484
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 126440281 451723
RSCorr: 1 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 93252937 0
Data Cells: 2246053 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 53 53
AS: 810

Bearer 0
INP: 3.50 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 1.63 7.62
OR: 97.80 36.70
AgR: 60090.43 15033.97

Bitswap: 179/179 0/0

Total time = 36 min 54 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 2
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 53 53
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 6 min 54 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 30 30
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 36 min 54 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 2
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 53 53
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 13 min 29 sec
FEC: 1 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 02:04:59 AM »

I'm guessing this is not going to have any immediate effect. Kinda annoying. I also changed the power source tonight (removed it from a shared bank).

Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 31636 Kbps, Downstream rate = 82912 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 10997 Kbps, Downstream rate = 47993 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 13.3 19.2
Attn(dB): 12.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.2 -2.8
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 18 36
B: 31 31
M: 1 1
T: 64 64
R: 10 2
S: 0.0212 0.0925
L: 15840 2941
D: 1537 1
I: 42 34
N: 42 34
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 43531 8597
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 16529700 3850547
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 8184553 0
Data Cells: 1207 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 84 84
AS: 89

Bearer 0
INP: 3.50 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 8 0
PER: 2.04 10.39
OR: 93.91 32.31
AgR: 48086.44 11028.91

Bitswap: 5/5 0/0

Total time = 40 min 17 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 2
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 84 84
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 17 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 31 31
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 30 30
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 40 min 17 sec
FEC: 122 0
CRC: 0 2
ES: 0 2
SES: 0 0
UAS: 84 84
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 1 min 29 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 04:07:13 AM »

Are you rebooting the modem yourself or is it DLM taking action?
Something isn't looking right there.
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 07:01:26 AM »

How many times have you resynced/restarted the modem?
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 08:23:25 AM »

Are you deliberately capping the speed or does it now sync like that without capping, as if so it's looking like it's banded and you really need to stop re-syncing as it's only making things worse.
I'd leave it alone (like don't touch it at all) for a few days and if nothing changes I'd ask for a DLM reset as you've "had problems with a faulty router" ;)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 08:42:27 AM by tubaman »
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 11:42:48 AM »

I'll chip in the same as others.

DLM will never ever make a positive change to the line from you performing a resync.
It treats resyncs as instability and will apply banding (capping the line) if you resync too often.

You've gone from a normal 71Mb sync, to what appears 60Mb capped, then 48Mb capped.

Is this a manual cap placed by you?
If not...oh dear. That's some of the harshest banding I've seen in a short period of time.

Banding sticks. DLM adds it easy but takes months to lower it in small steps or it just never removes at all.

If it's a manual cap, why? That won't speed up G.INP.

edit: looks like a manual cap. Just noticed the upstream.

Why is the upstream capped at 11Mb? DLM treats upstream/downstream as separate entities. Capping the upstream won't affect downstream G.INP either.

IMO you are more like to prevent G.INP being applied by messing with the line than just leading it alone.

For most people it will take 2 days for G.INP to be applied.
It took 11 weeks for my line, 7 weeks for Tiffy's line.

My advice is uncap the line and leave it alone.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 11:48:26 AM by j0hn »
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 12:48:04 PM »

They were all manual caps. I suppose I have an irrational desire to see my latency return to normal, I've never cared about throughput.

Patience is not one of my virtues, I suppose.
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 01:08:31 PM »

OK, back we go:

Code: [Select]
Stats recorded 04 Feb 2019 13:04:19

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xb12d (177.45) / v0xb12d
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  0 hour 1 min 20 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 04 Feb 2019 13:03:16)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  12.8 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 71866 20000
SNR margin (dB):        6.2 13.1
Power (dBm):            13.3 -2.8
Interleave depth:        1196 1
INP:                    3.00 0
G.INP:                  Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 0


As an aside, what is the rationale in not starting from 'the best point' on a DLM reset?
8ms of delay is ridiculous. Openreach are better than this.

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« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 06:33:25 PM by burakkucat »
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Re: Been upgraded... G.INP disappeared?
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2019, 01:11:50 PM »

I guess it depends on what you consider to be the best point.  ;)

My brothers line took many weeks, possibly even a couple of months before g.inp was applied, although I think this was before they applied interleaving as standard.
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