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Yorkie

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Strange connections
« on: June 12, 2008, 12:53:04 PM »

Have carefully unscrewed old telephone junction box (would you believe its got GPO written on it) and inside are six screw connections which is what I expected, however wires in and out are not connected to these. What I have is two weird looking plastic connectors which look as if the wires are embedded into them.
Does anyone have a clue what these are, or have I fallen at the first fence in my attempt to improve my wiring.
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 01:24:51 PM »

It sounds as though someone has just used a junction box as a simple way of covering up some inline connectors. But be careful. Do you have an NTE5 master socket (the faceplate is split in half, and the lower part is separately removable) or is this GPO junction box directly connected to the wires coming into your house? If you haven't got an NTE5 then all your telephone wiring belongs to BT and you're not allowed to play with it.
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 01:49:11 PM »

Yorkie.... you'll have Ezzer after you     :lol:
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 02:22:33 PM »

I only looked honest.

The drop wire goes into this box, from that another wire runs a torturous route to a newer socket, but not one of the new split boxes, this is the wiring I was hoping to replace.
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 03:02:24 PM »

The 'proper' thing to do is to ask BT to fit an NTE5 master socket, but that will normally be chargeable (I think). I've read about devious ways of getting it done for free, but I'm not sure I'd recommend them. :)
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2008, 09:59:48 AM »

Not so devious would be to report an ADSL fault on your line and then ask the engineer to replace the Socket with an NTE5 socket. This is NOT chargeable.
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 12:57:46 PM »

What you've got are crimps in the block, Your better off having your wires connected via crimps rather than the screw terminals as the old type can be prone to corrosion and/or ants. (found the odd fault obviously caused by an ant who's stood on a couple of terminals in an incommimg call, one fried ant and one HR connection)

The crimps have got a gel in them, if in a soaking wet joint it still takes some time before water can penitrate to the conductors so causing a fault.

I wouldn't recoment using the mains type screw terminal blocks to connect wiring as this can be prone to corrosion in the same way as the screw terminals.

Ok I suppose a peak is ok, but always remember if you fiddle with the wiring and become lost in trying to get it working again, sp's charges for call outs are a bit on the ouch side

If already at a property with out an NTE5 then if feasible then we are supposed to try and fit one. Otherwise if you specificaly ask for one then I don't know what the current situation is but Iwould think this would become a chargeable visit, it's up to your provider so you have to raise the question with them
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 03:16:16 PM »

At Zen, if we raise a fault and the customer does not have an NTE5 socket, then engineer is supposed to fit one. The charge is then passed to BTW to pay. The customer does not get charged for the visit. So as Ezzer has said, it comes down to the provider.
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Re: Strange connections
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 07:24:13 PM »

crimps in the block

That sounds painful.

Now I have a dilema, do I finish wall papering kitchen that I started two years ago, before getting a man in.  ;D
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