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[rjpreston]

Hi. Looking for some expert advice / opinion from you all  I'm wondering whether I am on the wrong tariff and overpaying as a result.

I'm currently on FTTC BT Superfast Fibre 1 Unlimited (what used to be BT Infinity 1 Unlimited). I'm some way from the cabinet (circa 1km) so speed is around 30mbps - ive posted my HG612 stats below. The HG612 is a new addition -  after the wifi on my BT smarthub (HH6) started playing up, I swapped to an unlocked HG612 and an Asus router. The change actually increased the connection speed by about 10% but unless I'm mistaken I reckon I'm about as fast as the line will provide now. The HG612 has been up for about 8 days now.

So the question is, can I safely move to a cheaper (BT) broadband tariff without losing whatever speed I now have? BT now do an Unlimited version of their "Fibre Essentials" package which I think is a 36Mbps maximum speed. As I'm getting less than that, it seems that I'm wasting money being on the higher 50/10 package. Of course, when I speak with BT they just try to get me to "upgrade" to their 66Mbps 'Plus' deal, which will I guess be even more of a waste of money for me! No mention of the Essentials package at all.

One other question - Do these stats show that I have Interleaving on the line now? I'm pretty sure that the HH6 was "Fastpath" (altho at a lower 28Mbps speed). Will this interleaving ever change to Fastpath, or does the higher connection speed I now get also mean that Interleaving is here to stay?

EDIT: Forgot to explain - if you reckon the speed might increase beyond the 36Mbps maximum that that Essentials package provides, that'd obviously be a reason to stay on the package I have currently. But that's another 20% faster than what I have today. So probably unlikely I imagine.

Many thanks for any help you can post.



xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 6998 Kbps, Downstream rate = 30436 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 6998 Kbps, Downstream rate = 30978 Kbps
Bearer:   1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    6.3       6.1
Attn(dB):    25.8       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    12.9       5.3
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      -6      26
B:      227      207
M:      1      1
T:      0      41
R:      12      4
S:      0.2341      0.9438
L:      8202      1797
D:      4      1
I:      240      106
N:      240      212
Q:      4      0
V:      0      0
RxQueue:      72      0
TxQueue:      18      0
G.INP Framing:      18      0
G.INP lookback:      18      0
RRC bits:      0      24
         Bearer 1
MSGc:      90      -6
B:      0      0
M:      2      0
T:      2      0
R:      16      0
S:      10.6667      0.0000
L:      24      0
D:      1      0
I:      32      0
N:      32      0
Q:      0      0
V:      0      0
RxQueue:      0      0
TxQueue:      0      0
G.INP Framing:      0      0
G.INP lookback:      0      0
RRC bits:      0      0
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      0      1070309
OHFErr:      1      1177
RS:      712690728      1223660
RSCorr:      77620969      1857
RSUnCorr:   0      0
         Bearer 1
OHF:      49735221      0
OHFErr:      0      0
RS:      298410957      0
RSCorr:      4745      0
RSUnCorr:   0      0

         Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:      1169336716      0
rtx_c:      1600112      0
rtx_uc:      4      0

         G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:      1      0
minEFTR:   30974      0
errFreeBits:   376947775      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      0      0
OCD:      0      0
LCD:      0      0
Total Cells:   324539567      0
Data Cells:   634360013      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

         Bearer 1
HEC:      0      0
OCD:      0      0
LCD:      0      0
Total Cells:   0      0
Data Cells:   0      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      1      871
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
AS:      798883

         Bearer 0
INP:      49.00      0.00
INPRein:   1.00      0.00
delay:      0      0
PER:      0.00      9.71
OR:      0.01      26.35
AgR:      31046.32   7024.93

         Bearer 1
INP:      2.50      0.00
INPRein:   2.50      0.00
delay:      0      0
PER:      16.06      0.01
OR:      47.81      0.01
AgR:      47.81   0.01

Bitswap:   459837/459864      11363/11426

Total time = 1 days 5 hours 55 min 8 sec
FEC:      77620969      1857
CRC:      1      1177
ES:      1      871
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 8 sec
FEC:      42062      0
CRC:      0      1
ES:      0      1
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      61802      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 5 hours 55 min 8 sec
FEC:      1289045      154
CRC:      0      86
ES:      0      57
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:      4389785      303
CRC:      0      186
ES:      0      144
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 9 days 5 hours 54 min 41 sec
FEC:      77620969      1857
CRC:      1      1177
ES:      1      871
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
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[j0hn]

BT's 55/10 FTTC offering is now advertised as average 36Mb.

Ofcom imposed changes that means they no longer advertise  "upto" but averages instead.

I fear it's the same package you are on.
That's BT's slowest FTTC offering.
Anything slower is ADSL based from the exchange, unless you live in the Chelsea? exchange area, which I think can still order 18/2.
Might be wrong on the last point.

[rjpreston]

Cheers. There definitely seems to be some cheaper package called "Essential" in their price list, but it is totally not advertised on their website or mentioned by their sales agents.

e.g. on page 160 of this https://www.productsandservices.bt.com/assets/pdf/BT_PhoneTariff_Residential.pdf

ill have to try harder with the sales agents!

[gt94sss2]

I believe BT have restarted selling the 40MB tier, hence the advertised speed of 36.

The 55MB tier has an advertised speed of 50MB.

The stats seem to show rjpreston has g.inp on the downstream so a speed boost isn't likely unless a) there is a wiring issue or b) their target SNR falls.

[ejs]

I could see it on the BT website. The offerings were:

Superfast Fibre Essential - Average speed 36Mb
Superfast Fibre - Average speed 50Mb
Superfast Fibre 2 - Average speed 67Mb
Superfast Fibre Plus - Average speed 67Mb
Superfast Fibre Plus + Complete Wi-Fi - Average speed 67Mb

[Weaver]

And a warm welcome to the forum too! Best wishes.