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Author Topic: Alternatives to AAISP  (Read 1002 times)

dee.jay

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2018, 11:44:52 AM »

Yes, it used to be the case that Sky had, in their terms and conditions, a point that said that 3rd party equipment was forbidden.

However, they didn't stop anyone who actually did. I very quickly dumped the Sagem router when they first gave me FTTC in 2012 and nobody has ever said anything about the non-Sky equipment.

Obviously it became interesting if I ever needed to call them, but luckily that has only had to happen on very few occasions. I had Sky Q in early 2016, and as an early adopter, I think the engineers were expecting to see the Sky Q router in place before they installed the TV due to the Wi-Fi mesh. As soon as the engineer left my house, their router was promptly removed and I put my own equipment back on.

I think in the last few months they have indeed relaxed that requirement, I believe there was some Ofcom ruling that has forced this, but don't quote me on that as I am not sure if I actually read that or if I'm making that up.

Having said that, I don't know if they publish anything to help you achieve that, my guess is not - if you wish to use your own equipment then go ahead, but I don't think Sky would be expected to support whatever esoteric routing device you have on your network.
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highpriest

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2018, 12:59:50 PM »

Almost everything on SamKnows is out of date.
I don't think they even update their broadband coverage stuff now.

Yeah, it hasn't been updated in years. In my case, kitz kindly checked for me and confirmed that my exchange had Zen LLU presence.

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The zen broadband checker should tell you if you are "on net".

Ooh, didn't know that.
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highpriest

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2018, 01:01:21 PM »

Have Sky stopped forcing people to use the Sky hub out of interest? That has always been one of the things which has put me off them, and any other ISP's which force their kit on you. I've got my own Zyexl device so all I will never need are the PPPoE info from ISP's, but it seems some are quite reluctant to give it out or are very confused at the request (I had a similar experience with Vodafone not so long ago) - I just remember Sky were always a little bit funny about using non-standard kit.

AFAIK, Sky doesn't use PPPoE.
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dee.jay

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 02:15:02 PM »

Yeah, you have to use what Sky call "MER" but it's essentially just DHCP Option 61.

You don't even need a username/password, as long as the field has something in it, it'll authenticate.
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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 06:53:52 PM »

Sky are generally uncongested to the point you wont notice it but in some of my recent months I have had on occasion some increased peak latency at peak hours but in terms of real world usage no impact, streaming, downloads etc. full performance.

Sky officially support ipv6 in dual stack configuration.

But the gotchas are as follows.

They used to not support (but not forbid either) 3rd party routers, now its in the t&c's as a breach.  I dont know of anyone who has been kicked off for it but it is something to be aware off.
The ipv6 prefix is not static, it is dynamic with a week long DHCP expiry, since I started using ipv6 on sky my prefix has changed at least 3 times from network resegmentations.  If they resegment the part of the network you on, your prefix may well get forcefully changed which may or may not bother you.
They do support a single static ipv4 on the pro package which 'will' survive resegmentations.  But apparently a few of their dslams do not support it for some reason.

I can confirm you dont need your actual user/password any more to use 3rd party routers so its easier than it used to be, in addition when I had my last line fault, they gave me no hassle whatsoever in regards to my router, they did the line test (which failed) without even asking me if I am using the sky hub which was interesting.
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dee.jay

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2018, 08:14:33 PM »

They have removed that clause from their T&C's.

They also won't sell you the Pro package anymore, either.
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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2018, 03:07:25 PM »

I see Sky have dropped the price of Fibre Max to £27/month. That coupled with the pre-paid card and potential cashback through Quidco is making it tempting. I was thinking of waiting till around Black Friday to see what Zen may do but fairly sure they wouldnít be able to get near that.

No static IP though but to be honest, I donít really need one. Itís kind of useful for the TBB monitor but I think using a Dynamic DNS like No-IP would get around that?

Edit: Signed up with Sky. Hopefully made the right choice. Still not certain with regards to job security, so cutting £33/month off the broadband bill kind of needed to be done.
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dee.jay

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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2018, 07:57:52 AM »

On a more serious note, I hope the job security situation gets cleared soon for you.
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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2018, 10:10:20 AM »

Seconded, I know what itís like to be uncertain about your job, so my very best wishes.
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Re: Alternatives to AAISP
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2018, 01:03:39 PM »

On a more serious note, I hope the job security situation gets cleared soon for you.
Seconded, I know what itís like to be uncertain about your job, so my very best wishes.

Thank you both :) I'm quietly confident that it'll be ok, it's just the not knowing that's a pain.
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