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Author Topic: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?  (Read 3004 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« on: September 09, 2018, 09:19:32 PM »

Been meaning to ask, is there a recommended replacement for the HG612 these days that still gives you all the stats and doesn't suck on ECI cabinets?

I assume the modem drivers must have changed in the last four years?
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 09:26:41 PM »

. . . is there a recommended replacement for the HG612 these days that still gives you all the stats and doesn't suck on ECI cabinets?

I would recommend one of the ZyXEL VMGnnnn-B10A series.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 05:01:26 PM »

Its a tricky situation as technically I don't need to replace it, but as my line stats have deteriorated I was curious if modem improvements have been seen to make any notable differences on ECI DSLAMs.

The ECI modem always seemed a little lower latency and maybe 1Mbit faster at times, but it was the latest version that can't be hacked which bothered me.  Now with the g.FAST rollout scaled back I think its going to be a LONG time before they bring FTTP to my penniless street.

I do use RFC4638 though.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2018, 05:56:15 PM »

I do use RFC4638 though.

Then one of the ZyXEL VMGnnnn-B10A series devices with firmware incorporating the Olipro patches will be appropriate for your needs.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2018, 08:33:31 PM »

I was in the same situation about a year ago (thread) and ended up trying both the VMG1312-B10A and VMG1312-B10D. Ultimately, the VMG1312-B10A performed best on my line and it has been working well since. I am using the Olipro patched firmware with it to enable Jumbo Frame support.

So that's another +1 for the VMG1312-B10A as a HG612 replacement!
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 08:13:40 AM »

I note there are a few ZyXEL modems - is the B10A the best? If so, why is that?
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 08:20:18 AM »

I note there are a few ZyXEL modems - is the B10A the best? If so, why is that?

The VMG1312-B10A uses a superior Broadcom chip, the 63168 (VMG1312-B10D I believe uses the cheaper 63381) and also has extra filtering on the line side.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2018, 03:27:22 PM »

I am in search boat and needing to replace my HG612 as well. Does these VMG1312-B10A's have the ability to go into modem mode so I can then use my VR2600 for network routing without the risk of double nat? Also does this work with dslstats as well?

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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2018, 03:32:56 PM »

Does these VMG1312-B10A's have the ability to go into modem mode so I can then use my VR2600 for network routing without the risk of double nat?

Yes.

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Also does this work with dslstats as well?

And yes.  :)
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2018, 03:41:40 PM »

Yes.

And yes.  :)
Right just bought one should be here tomorrow although they are expensive.

Edit: is unlocking them easy enough? Or is it a TTL hack job?

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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2018, 03:58:31 PM »

Edit: is unlocking them easy enough?

It really depends upon whether the device you have purchased is an ISP/CP branded device or a vanilla ZyXEL device. Both VMG1312-B10As that I own were ISP/CP branded but were trivial to convert back to vanilla ZyXEL devices. In the worst possible case scenario following the steps that I outlined in an earlier thread will be sufficient.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 04:01:25 PM »

It really depends upon whether the device you have purchased is an ISP/CP branded device or a vanilla ZyXEL device. Both VMG1312-B10As that I own were ISP/CP branded but were trivial to convert back to vanilla ZyXEL devices. In the worst possible case scenario following the steps that I outlined in an earlier thread will be sufficient.
Purchased from CCL so hopefully it's generic firmware is it like the HG612 using the reset trick and 192.168.1.100 trick with uboot. Might ask for help as my HG612 is confirmed fecked as using the ISP TG589vac be right now and not having the issues I had with HG612

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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 05:12:59 PM »

Is there an accepted "best" model that replaces the HG612? I've seen some on here favour Lantiq chipsets, whilst most are content with the good ol' HG612's.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2018, 07:42:03 PM »

@dee.jay - arguably the ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A or its more modern replacements and their higher end wireless modem-routers. ZyXEL have stopped selling the B10A, although new ones can still be found but they are starting to get ridiculously expensive as they are so highly sought after. I suspect that there are other models that are equally good in respect of the modem part (I hope so anyway), and there are now ones that have much better wireless. All of these have a high quality Broadcom chipset. The B10A has a quality analog front end with a noise rejection filter, some of the top end ZyXEL modem-routers but not all may have this too, but some definitely do not, so I am told.

The ZyXEL VMG1312-B10D is a cheaper replacement, which has a lower quality modem, so I am told, but this may not matter for some users - not sure if it even applies if you are using FTTC or if you have a very good line. Perhaps someone who knows what they are talking about would chip in?

I am told Billion has very good reputation.
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Re: A Replacement for the Huawei HG612 Modem?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2018, 08:24:46 AM »

Yes, was looking at the VMG1312-B10A - and indeed, as you say, ~ 120 on eBay for them.

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