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Author Topic: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?  (Read 568 times)

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Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« on: December 28, 2018, 04:33:33 PM »

I am looking to replace my NTE5 with a Filtered Faceplate and just wondering if there are some filters better than others? 

I recall someone saying (years ago) that the ADSLnation XTE designed filtered faceplate is an 'Active' type and these are not as good as 'Passive' types such as the Pressac VDSL Mk4 faceplate.. I dunno if this was true? I have read on Wikipedia that 'Active' types may be considered better?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSL_filter#Components

can anyone shed some light on this?

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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2018, 04:54:12 PM »

The first question that you should answer is: Do you intend to use the circuit for telephony?

If your answer is "No", then do as Weaver and do not install a centralised splitter/filter. If your answer is "Yes", then use an Openreach branded NTE5/A and Mk 3 SSFP.

Don't use "historic" "ADSLnation" items. The company ceased to exist some years ago and old stock is still being sold-off. Those "XTE" devices were designed for ADSL2+ and not for the wider bandwidth of VDSL2.
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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2018, 06:10:35 PM »

The first question that you should answer is: Do you intend to use the circuit for telephony?

If your answer is "No", then do as Weaver and do not install a centralised splitter/filter. If your answer is "Yes", then use an Openreach branded NTE5/A and Mk 3 SSFP.

Don't use "historic" "ADSLnation" items. The company ceased to exist some years ago and old stock is still being sold-off. Those "XTE" devices were designed for ADSL2+ and not for the wider bandwidth of VDSL2.

run-it-direct sell ones that look the same as those XTE ones, call them VTE I think?

I do intend to use a phone, i dont use it but its nice to have in emergency
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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2018, 07:51:10 PM »

I'd recommend an OpenReach MK3 SSFP if you have an NTE5A master socket.

If you have the newer rounded NTE5C them buy an OpenReach MK4 that fits the newer master sockets.

I don't recommend any of the other faceplates currently on run-it-direct.
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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2018, 08:53:49 PM »

I'd recommend an OpenReach MK3 SSFP if you have an NTE5A master socket.

If you have the newer rounded NTE5C them buy an OpenReach MK4 that fits the newer master sockets.

I don't recommend any of the other faceplates currently on run-it-direct.

he only sells the Mk4 with NTE5C or the XTE design, the rest are discontinued, i will just get one off ebay or that 5C at some point
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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2018, 10:14:21 PM »

I'd recommend an OpenReach MK3 SSFP if you have an NTE5A master socket.

If you have the newer rounded NTE5C them buy an OpenReach MK4 that fits the newer master sockets.

I don't recommend any of the other faceplates currently on run-it-direct.

if u dont use a filter.. does a modem have a high pass filter built in?
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Re: Best filters to use? (Active or Passive)..?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2018, 10:34:56 PM »

Every modem has a high-pass filter in its input stage.
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