Broadband Related > Telephony Wiring + Equipment
Fourth line goes in next Wed
Weaver:
I may well have missed an email or two from AA, my ISP, and was waiting on BT or certainly thought I was. Anyway, Janet got an email saying
--- Quote ---I don't think it will come down to excess charges, please see the updates below :-
*Pratiksha Shinde (14:10:57) They have provided the update as Spares found on CSS Divert may be possible. *
*Pratiksha Shinde (14:14:16) So I request you to check on 25/06/18 for an update on the order.IF the engineer provide any update till 25/06/18 that will be very helpful. *
So we should know a little more next week.
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and later -
--- Quote ---The order is still plodding along, cabling work is still required, it is moving
but taking a little longer than we'd hope
*Pooja Kiran Chavan (11:42:27) Mikey I could see the job is with contractors for cabling work and they have given the ECD is 25/07/18. *
I shall keep chasing and update you ASAP.
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Then finally the other day another one saying that BT would be coming on the 8th of this month to install an additional copper line. Yippee. I didn't think that BT was going to go for it.
I wonder if BT had to do some actual work around here before they could promise a date? - sounds a bit like it? Could it be possible that they needed to first check how many free copper pairs were good? Would probably have that information to hand already?
So -
The cost is £130 for installation. I can't remember what it was before, but £60 is the usual AA price for a copper pair install, I think. BT can perhaps just demand whatever they like, as they did before? Such is the joy of being an effective monopoly. Or perhaps Ofcom has got their bony grip on BT wrt this too. I am pleased that it is so cheap anyway, a relief. :-)
Then, iirc, per month: £12.20 for the copper, £12 for ADSL and an optional £12 for ‘premium’ traffic prioritisation. And I have no idea if there is VAT on top of that lot or not, doesn't say on the website, or if it does then I cannot see it. I hate it when you cannot see inc-VAT / exc-VAT in situ.
1. I have to get the small switch up and running which will be acting as a VLAN mux to connect all the modems into the Firebrick. It will be modems to small switch, then switch to Firebrick. This addition is needed because I will not have enough free ethernet sockets on the Firebrick. AA has the config for the small switch on their website, iirc. 2. I then have to do a config file for the modem itself. I have written a program in the iPad that can do that, generate the XML config for a ZyXEL modem. 3. And finally I must change the main Firebrick XML config to reflect the changes.
Anyway, next wed is the day. That means I need to buy some very nice biscuits for our BT man. Kettle will be on etc.
It is the second pair in the second drop cable.
burakkucat:
I very much doubt that there was any reliable and up-to-date network records . . . I suspect that a "proper little man" had to be sent out to survey and prepare an inventory.
A new circuit provision will, of course, have a new NTE5C. So remember to request that just a telephony front be fitted. You won't require the xDSL filter front.
Weaver:
I asked AA if they could attach a note to the job, to ask our man to bring a normal telephony front with him. I don't know how much stuff like that they have spare in the van. I would rather not waste an additional small amount of money having to buy yet another entire NTE just to get the front, as before.
Do BT engineers sometimes need to make some other actual changes in advance, for any reason?
There has been a wee bit of Openreach van coming-and-going down into the village over the last couple of months. New (individual) houses were mentioned in an earlier post and that could well be the reason.
I am wasting a lot of money on BT+AA ‘premium’ traffic prioritisation. This has been discussed in a couple of threads maybe, once or twice before. Unfortunately the only way to find out its worth would be a long and careful comparative test, which would be really hard to design. The cost is such that I could get another copper line out of the money saved by killing Premium.
burakkucat:
--- Quote from: Weaver on August 03, 2018, 09:18:07 PM ---I asked AA if they could attach a note to the job, to ask our man to bring a normal telephony front with him. I don't know how much stuff like that they have spare in the van.
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I would expect that both types would be carried in the van. I know there are other specialised variants e.g. the one to disable the connection to the incoming metallic pathway, fitted when the telephony service is carried over FTTP and a link cable is used to connect the on-board ATA of the ONT to the pre-existing internal telephone extension wiring.
--- Quote ---Do BT engineers sometimes need to make some other actual changes in advance, for any reason?
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I think that will depend upon the circumstances of the actual provide process. Removal of a DACS unit, for example.
--- Quote ---I am wasting a lot of money on BT+AA ‘premium’ traffic prioritisation.
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Ultimately that has to be your decision but perhaps you could try without it and see if you notice its absence?
Weaver:
As for a trial, by its very nature you would have to wait until various networks are heavily loaded to give it some stress. I can't remember, but with some if these things there is a BT charge for turning a feature off, also maybe a one-off charge turning it on. That was true for the BT enhanced care feature or whatever it is called - the premium / priority maintenance call out thing which I also have on one or two lines.
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