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Author Topic: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%  (Read 35826 times)

michty_me

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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #105 on: January 29, 2019, 10:07:11 AM »

Morning everyone,

I'm looking to do this to my line to see if I can get it to switch to Retx low.
Would a 60Mbps cap be sufficient on a line synching at 70.5Mbps or would you cap a little lower?
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2019, 06:41:37 PM »

I limited the line to 50mbps and Retx low was in place on day 3.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2019, 12:35:25 PM »

Hi,


Code: [Select]
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 8299 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59172 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 8299 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59419 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 4.4 6.3
Attn(dB): 23.3 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.1 4.6
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 244 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1308 0.9112
L: 15601 2230
D: 4 1
I: 255 127
N: 255 254
Q: 4 0
V: 3 0
RxQueue: 135 0
TxQueue: 27 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 27 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 8.0000 0.0000
L: 32 0
D: 1 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 301435
OHFErr: 593 357
RS: 3972348140 1113632
RSCorr: 54986662 4290
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 16891330 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 135130147 0
RSCorr: 2613 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0


Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 7553524 0
rtx_c: 355366 0
rtx_uc: 217876 0


G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 206 0
minEFTR: 59423 0
errFreeBits: 560662209 0


Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 375510518 0
Data Cells: 830646517 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0


Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0


ES: 72 275
SES: 42 7
UAS: 426 393
AS: 271320


Bearer 0
INP: 55.00 0.00
INPRein: 1.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 9.60
OR: 0.01 26.65
AgR: 59723.48 8325.58


Bearer 1
INP: 2.00 0.00
INPRein: 2.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 63.75 0.01
AgR: 63.75 0.01


Bitswap: 171210/175429 1017/1028


Total time = 1 days 58 min 22 sec
FEC: 81082363 4522
CRC: 2164 468
ES: 72 275
SES: 42 7
UAS: 426 393
LOS: 2 0
LOF: 6 0
LOM: 14 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 13 min 22 sec
FEC: 49530 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 29206 2
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 58 min 22 sec
FEC: 101419 7
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 29896047 3729
CRC: 24 118
ES: 8 60
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 3 days 3 hours 21 min 59 sec
FEC: 54986662 4290
CRC: 593 357
ES: 26 223
SES: 8 4
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 1 0
 



Not sure if I will see any benefit from doing this - but hoping even though I'm not at 3dB I can increase the BRAS profile by capping the sync, all the same?
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2019, 02:48:31 PM »

Hi,


Code: [Select]
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 8299 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59172 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 8299 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59419 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 4.4 6.3
Attn(dB): 23.3 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.1 4.6
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 244 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1308 0.9112
L: 15601 2230
D: 4 1
I: 255 127
N: 255 254
Q: 4 0
V: 3 0
RxQueue: 135 0
TxQueue: 27 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 27 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 8.0000 0.0000
L: 32 0
D: 1 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 301435
OHFErr: 593 357
RS: 3972348140 1113632
RSCorr: 54986662 4290
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 16891330 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 135130147 0
RSCorr: 2613 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0


Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 7553524 0
rtx_c: 355366 0
rtx_uc: 217876 0


G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 206 0
minEFTR: 59423 0
errFreeBits: 560662209 0


Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 375510518 0
Data Cells: 830646517 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0


Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0


ES: 72 275
SES: 42 7
UAS: 426 393
AS: 271320


Bearer 0
INP: 55.00 0.00
INPRein: 1.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 9.60
OR: 0.01 26.65
AgR: 59723.48 8325.58


Bearer 1
INP: 2.00 0.00
INPRein: 2.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 63.75 0.01
AgR: 63.75 0.01


Bitswap: 171210/175429 1017/1028


Total time = 1 days 58 min 22 sec
FEC: 81082363 4522
CRC: 2164 468
ES: 72 275
SES: 42 7
UAS: 426 393
LOS: 2 0
LOF: 6 0
LOM: 14 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 13 min 22 sec
FEC: 49530 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 29206 2
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 58 min 22 sec
FEC: 101419 7
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 29896047 3729
CRC: 24 118
ES: 8 60
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 3 days 3 hours 21 min 59 sec
FEC: 54986662 4290
CRC: 593 357
ES: 26 223
SES: 8 4
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 1 0
 



Not sure if I will see any benefit from doing this - but hoping even though I'm not at 3dB I can increase the BRAS profile by capping the sync, all the same?

I would say you are already at your maximum speed. It doesn't look capped.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2019, 03:09:23 PM »

I would say you are already at your maximum speed. It doesn't look capped.

I didn't say my speed was capped, I meant putting a cap on myself and dropping the speed might mean I can go down to retx low and then effectively end up with a higher speed because the BRAS profile will be higher?
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bkehoe

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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #110 on: December 26, 2019, 06:58:00 PM »

Yes, this has worked for me in the past.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2019, 07:25:26 PM »

Does anyone have a recommendation for what I should cap my sync speed to, based on my stats posted above?

Can I do it on the HG612?
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underzone

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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2019, 08:09:14 PM »

use dslstats: config, advanced, to send a custom command. This:


adsl configure --maxDataRate 50000 20000 100000
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michty_me

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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #113 on: December 26, 2019, 08:15:33 PM »

I didn't say my speed was capped, I meant putting a cap on myself and dropping the speed might mean I can go down to retx low and then effectively end up with a higher speed because the BRAS profile will be higher?
Apologies, misinterpreted what you meant. I blame the Christmas fuzz.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2019, 10:20:08 PM »

Will choosing "When DSL connection is down" ensure the command gets run if the modem gets rebooted?
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #115 on: December 26, 2019, 10:27:26 PM »

I imagine if you cap it the first thing it'll do is change you to a 3dB target, and then once you're sure its done that you'll cap it again to get it onto ReTx Low..that was how I got to 3dB retx low in my old house.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2019, 10:42:33 PM »

Apologies, misinterpreted what you meant. I blame the Christmas fuzz.

Do not worry.

I imagine if you cap it the first thing it'll do is change you to a 3dB target, and then once you're sure its done that you'll cap it again to get it onto ReTx Low..that was how I got to 3dB retx low in my old house.

Will I see the maximum go up even if the SNRM doesn't drop, as I assume the cap will remain in place even if the target SNRM drops?

The VMG1312 syncs I think around 3000Kbps faster, so I might be able to get to around 60Mbps throughput with that modem if I am lucky.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #117 on: December 27, 2019, 10:04:52 AM »

Yeah the maximum will go up after the target SNR is changed and the modem resyncs. Cap will stay in place until you reboot the router.
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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #118 on: December 27, 2019, 06:57:24 PM »

My circuit is still underperforming on downstream throughput thanks to a incorrectly configured Bras IP profile (which a have no visibility of, ) btw tester will no longer show IP profile , always times out or gives so error, and the other method returns a BT refused to return a result , My circuit had been put on a RETX high profile, but DLM later removed that and reverted it back to Low, but the IP profile seems to be stuck as the lower percentile , Zen have calculated the IP profile from the cvlan rate, and had that manually set to 77.35mbps but throughput is still just under 72mbps
Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 26845 Kbps, Downstream rate = 81736 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 3.4 15.1
Attn(dB): 13.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.4 4.1
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 130 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 8 16
S: 0.0518 0.3781
L: 21468 5374
D: 16 1
I: 139 127
N: 139 254
Q: 16 0
V: 14 0
RxQueue: 60 0
TxQueue: 20 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 20 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 5.3333 0.0000
L: 48 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 811865
OHFErr: 0 513
RS: 4282578016 2240133
RSCorr: 1638355 4687
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 86892700 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 1042711658 0
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 5260 0
rtx_c: 3360 0
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 19 0
minEFTR: 79999 0
errFreeBits: 1703085472 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 4270174176 0
Data Cells: 3512346556 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 485
SES: 0 0
UAS: 24 24
AS: 1395732

Bearer 0
INP: 48.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 80614.82 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 0.00
INPRein: 4.00 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 95.62 0.01
AgR: 95.62 0.01

Bitswap: 360320/360320 78/78

Total time = 1 days 3 hours 42 min 36 sec
FEC: 1638355 4687
CRC: 0 513
ES: 0 485
SES: 0 0
UAS: 24 24
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 36 sec
FEC: 751 2
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 953 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 3 hours 42 min 36 sec
FEC: 13927 42
CRC: 0 4
ES: 0 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 83963 192
CRC: 0 27
ES: 0 27
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 16 days 3 hours 42 min 11 sec
FEC: 1638355 4687
CRC: 0 513
ES: 0 485
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
#


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Re: Openreach FTTC Target SNR 3dB reduced Bras IP Profile to 92.64%
« Reply #119 on: January 22, 2020, 03:45:04 PM »

So I have been connected for 12 days and no resync.

Code: [Select]
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 8399 Kbps, Downstream rate = 55888 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 6999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 11.2 8.8
Attn(dB): 23.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.1 4.4
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 122
B: 162 206
M: 1 1
T: 0 18
R: 8 16
S: 0.1295 0.9392
L: 10564 1908
D: 4 1
I: 171 112
N: 171 224
Q: 4 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 135 0
TxQueue: 27 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 27 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 90 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 10.6667 0.0000
L: 24 0
D: 1 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 141220
OHFErr: 557 291
RS: 4078423076 567103
RSCorr: 1819438 3669
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 69084762 0
OHFErr: 1 0
RS: 414508203 0
RSCorr: 657 0
RSUnCorr: 1 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 8174205 0
rtx_c: 813601 0
rtx_uc: 653806 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 367 0
minEFTR: 40000 0
errFreeBits: 1422206680 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1607819251 0
Data Cells: 3868945668 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 214 947
SES: 120 22
UAS: 1587 1523
AS: 1109683

Bearer 0
INP: 55.00 0.00
INPRein: 1.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 16.97
OR: 0.01 60.33
AgR: 40122.38 7059.28

Bearer 1
INP: 2.50 0.00
INPRein: 2.50 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 47.81 0.01
AgR: 47.81 0.01

Bitswap: 766035/783320 549/554

Total time = 1 days 4 hours 11 min 0 sec
FEC: 144283297 36953
CRC: 6247 1458
ES: 214 947
SES: 120 22
UAS: 1587 1523
LOS: 6 0
LOF: 10 0
LOM: 17 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 11 min 0 sec
FEC: 176 0
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 626 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 4 hours 11 min 0 sec
FEC: 22966 0
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 222782 51
CRC: 0 17
ES: 0 14
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 12 days 20 hours 14 min 43 sec
FEC: 1819438 3669
CRC: 557 291
ES: 17 220
SES: 11 2
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0

Is a further cap needed?
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