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Author Topic: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband  (Read 2186 times)

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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2018, 10:19:03 AM »

Any chance of virgin media cable to switch over? As I know Cable doesn't have any restricted eg: no DLM at all. But, don't know what VM are like in your area such as congestion network?

they don't need DLM.
their network does a pretty good good of keeping your connection way below advertised speeds anyway  ;D ;D
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2018, 10:48:51 AM »

Are you still using a zyxel modem kitz? No better luck with a lantiq box?

Yes.  The Zyxel 8324 outperforms any other modem Ive tried and best of the BCMs.   Higher sync and less errors.   
Lantiq chipsets give >6Mbps less than BCMs on this line. 
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »

Any chance of virgin media cable to switch over?

No VM in this area at all. 
No sign of g.fast, but doubt it wouldn't be any help even if it was here.     Whilst I can see the exchange from my window, cab is in different location further away.

Weird in a way.  Always used to get best speeds ie full 24/2.4 Annex_M.  Full adsl2+.  Used to get full 80/20 with what I thought was plenty to spare, but crosstalk killed that.   If I didn't watch the line, DLM would without doubt get me and I'd be lucky to get 60Mbps.     But I'm not losing sleep over it - not worth it.   I can do all I need with the current speed and am happy as long as I can keep interleaving at bay.   My situation is still a lot better than others.
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2018, 11:10:28 AM »

@kitz, hopefully you might get a surprise FTTP will go in your flavour soon from OR if OR knew that G.Fast is no benefits to your property at all, instead they go for FTTP for u one day. Who know?

Mine probably won't be g.fast afterall, it been pulled out for no reason, no explained but I ain't bother anyway. I just continue watch Netflix, surf the internet, checking email etc and my CCTV are all working fine.

There is G.Fast ongoing activated around in Wellington Telford. My mate got G.Fast activated last week start off 300/42 but now drop to 112/10. Got issues with g.fast from BT Smart Hub :(
« Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 11:12:46 AM by adslmax »
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2018, 05:25:30 PM »

For a thread started with a subject line of "Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband" it has now meandered way off course.  :D

At some point I will need to split this thread into two but, at present, I am undecided where to make the split, where to place the new thread and what its subject line should be.  :-\

Helpful suggestions (and un-licked kitteh-treats) will be appreciated . . .
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2018, 11:36:52 PM »

Hopefully your line should benefit significantly from vectoring when (if?) its rolled out nationwide.

Is there any reason its still only in BDUK areas? Is there extra equipment needed in the cabs like a vectoring controller or some such?
Yes additional hardware is required.
I don't think there will ever be a national rollout of vectoring for FTTC.

OpenReach finished their vectoring trials a few years ago and nothing came of it.
They don't want VDSL2 to be above 80Mb (they could make it 100Mb tomorrow by removing their cap) so a big benefit of vectoring would be wasted.

ECI cabinets don't do system level vectoring. So if OpenReach did rollout vectoring there would be even more of a 2 tier network.

It's only used in BDUK areas because it helps raise distant properties over the 24Mb SuperFast targets.

Deploying vectoring nationwide would be a huge expense for absolutely zero extra income.
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2018, 11:57:34 PM »

>Deploying vectoring nationwide would be a huge expense for absolutely zero extra income.

Good point. Is there any money to be made for BT out of G.Fast anyway? I realise that I have no idea what the answer to that basic question is.
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2018, 09:25:48 AM »

Yes it's a whole new product, higher pricing, considerably higher speeds.

The problem with VDSL2 vectoring is they can't charge extra as it can't be rolled out to everyone.

Also if you used to get 80Mb but crosstalk has knocked you down to 60Mb I'm sure you would be annoyed at the prospect of being charged more to get your 80Mb back.
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2018, 02:02:55 PM »

Though I'll probably never get G.fast from my ECI cabinet, I think we should encourage those who can get it to go for it, and then it'll remove a FTTC connection from the main cabinet. If I'm lucky it might be the FTTC connection to mine and I'll get less crosstalk.

Not that I have an ulterior motive or anything  ;D
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2018, 12:14:29 AM »

The manufacturer of the VDSL cabinet isn't an issue for G.fast.
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2018, 12:55:45 AM »

What is the price for g.fast?
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Re: Openreach Name Next 59 UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2018, 07:31:21 PM »

g.fast price is varies from isp's to isp's. AAISP, Cerberus, TalkTalk and BT are the isps offer g.fast!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2018, 07:36:52 PM by adslmax »
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