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Author Topic: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A  (Read 16043 times)

michty_me

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Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« on: June 05, 2018, 10:24:36 AM »

I'm looking at going back to a two box solution after having issues with my D7000.
Looking through threads, It appears this device is the go to unit.
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 06:13:15 PM »

Very pleased with mine. Have just bought four of them.


Am using them as modems only, so have no experience with router, firewall, wireless etc. Nor experience with VDSL2 usage, but there must be plenty of other kitizens who can comment in that respect.

There are a few on eBay at the moment and I think there is even a new boxed one. Watch out because one that is advertised has no power supply brick so you would have to find something suitable 12V 1A min.

Oh and use our own hero johnson's firmware.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 06:16:14 PM by Weaver »
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 08:40:27 PM »

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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 10:42:18 PM »

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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 07:00:45 AM »

Hi Weaver  ;D

I have been reading up on your threads the past couple of days to be honest. Some of which goes over my head but interesting reading none the less!
This is the first time I have used Facebook marketplace so you have to change location around the country and select the maximum distance. I think I may have found the only one on it from what I can see. I initially offered more but the seller lowered it slightly.
I've taken note of the ROM-D which possibly might need done. As far as I can tell, It appears like an unbranded device but I'll know when it arrives.
I've also read about TR-069 (I believe it was called) to kill the auto updates. Is that for ISP branded ones or would an unbranded one require this also?

I shall download Johnsons custom firmware this evening and have everything prepared for its arrival.

If you could give me a config file too, That would be great and very much appreciated! Shall I PM your good self my email address?

I now understand why you have so many modems, It did make me wonder if you were just hoarding them  :lol:

Now off to go and read the MTU thread and download what I need!!
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 12:46:49 PM »

« Last Edit: June 06, 2018, 02:04:14 PM by Weaver »
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 01:50:23 PM »

Thanks for the info Weaver.

Once I receive the modem, I'll have a proper look at it and see if I can think of any questions, I'll probably stick up a separate thread.
Is the config file just used for setting a connection i.e. I could create my own one which just stores my ISP details and settings I have selected from the GUI or does the config file store other information?
The config you posted just shows as a 0kb file and has no information included in it anyway.

The seller has stated the device isn't in his house and needs to retrieve it from storage so will be delayed in getting it already. We shall see but I sent the money by Paypal to be on the safe side!
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 02:18:05 PM »

Something screwed up in the upload of the attachment. Try again now - I have edited the original post above.

Because it is also a router and firewall and wireless access point and forty other things the config file is absolutely vast with a ton of stuff which is irrelevant for use as a modem but would be used if you turned it back into a wireless router. So it has got settings for more stuff than the parson preached about.

When you are using any PPPoE modem only the router knows about ISP settings such as PPP login usernames and passwords. The modem knows nothing about these.

For our purposes the config file has DSL line type settings in it and these need to be right for you.

But it also still has all the settings that you can set in the GUI, stores everything there is in the case of this modem, so it also stores usernames and passwords, enables features, such as turning on or off http or https web admin access, admin access via telnet and ssh, turns on or off ftp access iirc, and enables SNMP management. The list is still very long even when used as a modem anyway. Unfortunately all the router and wireless related default stuff is still all in there which makes it all very long.

The config is readable text so you will be able to guess what a lot off it means anyway, and I edit mine with a text editor.

My three modems have slightly different config, they have different names and different admin IP addresses for ease of access, which is a nuisance, so I have written a program for the iPad that takes one file and can make customised altered copies of it for modem 2 or 3 just to take the drudgery and errors out of this repetitive process whenever I make a change to the saved base master config for modem 1.
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 03:24:47 PM »

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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 05:57:26 PM »

While using config files is probably the best way of maintaining a complicated setup (and great if you have multiple modems that all need similar settings), I'd say for the initial set up something a little less daunting might be better? Just to get a feel for all the settings without hunting through a massive text file. Like:

Update to latest firmware
Acquire supvervisor password
Clear rom-d
Reset
Plug a PC directly in and configure - Disable wifi, set up VDSL bridge/vlan, interface groups etc

Having a GUI to do the VDSL settings, interface groups and the like will probably lead to understanding them better than fields in an XML file, no?


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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 07:05:45 PM »

Better find the supervisor password before upgrading firmware as you will be able to use dumpmdm in telnet which is the simplest and ofc  you'll know what password your device always generates to replace the default password of zyad1234

If your device was a branded one and also happend to have ROM-D restrictions that got in the way, then you can upload a config file to completely get around ROM-D as if it doesn't exist, and for that you can simply get the firmware zip file and inside you have the .rom aka the config that is the factory default already inside whichever firmware it belongs to, and you upload the configuration file as any other. Note you should get the zip file that matches the firmware the device came with [for example AAJZ.3].

ftp://ftp.zyxel.fr/ftp_download/VMG1312-B10A/firmware


If you use command prompt to send "dumpmdm" in telnet you'll need to increase buffer height to 9999 in order to be able to copy all the text & search for "supervisor" & find the password [you write "telnet" to start telnet and "open 192.168.1.1" to request login] :
https://windowswizardry.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/windows-features-enable-disable-telnetclient.jpg
https://www.isunshare.com/images/article/windows-10/change-screen-buffer-size-of-cmd-in-windows-10/right-tap-title-bar-and-choose-properties.png
https://www.isunshare.com/images/article/windows-10/change-screen-buffer-size-of-cmd-in-windows-10/change-screen-buffer-size.png
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 07:31:40 PM »

Thank you all for the piles of details.
I think for now, What I'll do is make sure it works when it arrives first!!! :lol:

My line is still currently banded due to the D7000 locking up and I suspect causing errors to be generated which then gave me a speed cap. That's my theory (I'll create a new thread for that)
My main use for it is wanting to set it up the VMG 1312-B10A so it handles the modem side of things whilst my D7000 handles the WiFi side of things for now.

All I'm thinking about at present is that it handles the modem side well with a fast but reliable speed and minimal errors but also able to access DSLstats easily.

Much like I had my HG612 prior to buying the D7000.
-Flashed the unlocked firmware
-Connected an Asus router and set it up.
-DSLStats worked through Lan2 (I believe thinking back long ago)

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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 10:27:19 PM »

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21532.0.html



ROM-D is cleared when you log in with supervisor-only at 192.168.1.1 on the web browser, you'd see a Clean option in the ROM-D tab at Management>Configuration , or send "save_default clean" in telnet as admin/supervisor [browser better, supervisor better].
Edit: After clearing ROM-D perform a pin-reset in the same boot session [restarts count as a different session].


"best firmware" [me and weaver are using 1312-B10A-from-zyxel-jumboframes-3925adsl_phy.bin, I have no problems so far and only gains]: https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21273.msg373268.html#msg373268
I'm fairly sure it has the same configuration file as original v14 embedded in it, in case you want to flash to it first, in fact from my findings I have found the password to be in plain text on v14.
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 07:49:08 AM »

Ok thanks for the tips.

Once I receive the device.
I'll start off by getting the firmware which Weaver and yourself had posted in the link from Johnson then follow the steps Johnson suggested in his earlier post. What is the difference between the two 1312 firmwares? Is one ADSL and one VDSL?

My only concern is that I'm unsure if I want to swap to the 1312-B10A just now as I'm trying to keep as much uptime as possible due to a previous issue I have experienced with my current setup.
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Re: Looking for a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 08:50:11 AM »

I think you should swap it if the current one ran for over 2 weeks, turning it off from the button after you prepared the transition but waiting 35 minutes before turning on the b10a hooked to the dsl socket.

The difference in his post is one is with a mod that updated the dsl driver and one has just the +8 mtu [jumboframes] mod. I recommend using the name I mentioned. About telnet sessions, if you need more than 1 at a time you can instead take the similarly named mod from page 11 on that thread.

About firmware I suggest you simply log in telnet first, once you connected a LAN cable to it, with user "admin" pass "1234" and write "dumpmdm" and see if it works, if not simply upload configuration .rom file from the firmware that matches your device in the web GUI, then it would work, and login with the password in the browser, clear rom-d and pin reset, and flash the firmware on the web browser then reset another time at Management>Configuration and you can use the gui to configure it. you should only edit the config if such an option is not available in the gui or alternatively telnet.

Also while the dsl socket is disconnected, you can test the bridge with the D7000. While connecting/disconnecting the DSL cable that modem should be turned off.

ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/VMG1312-B10A/user_guide/VMG1312-B10A_1.00.pdf

https://support.aa.net.uk/images/6/6c/VMG1312-B10A_CLI_Reference_Manual.pdf
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