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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 45474 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #345 on: August 24, 2020, 12:50:15 AM »

Please don't start false rumours.  Plusnet has no special relationship with Openreach.  Other ISP's could have taken up that offer too if they had submitted before the cut off date.

I apologise, I clearly misunderstood what Bob Pullen meant.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #346 on: August 24, 2020, 04:29:22 AM »

yeah the isps who couldnt pick their users were simply too slow to pull the trigger.  It was a very clever approach taken by plusnet to use that system for customers and I praise them for it.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #347 on: September 27, 2020, 01:57:18 PM »

another month goes by....

Been following this person's eci line for months since he was one of the original plus net trial lines. It still has g.inp enabled and has done since March.......... ::)

Stats recorded 27 Sep 2020 13:54:32

DSLAM type / SW version:   IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6F039t.d26d
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    17 days 6 hours 32 min 6 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 22 Sep 2020 07:38:24)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     15.9      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   71733      20000
SNR margin (dB):           4.2             4.1
Power (dBm):               6.4             6.4
Interleave depth:          1             1
INP:                            48.00             0
G.INP:                        Enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:           5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0026      0.3028
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                           0              0.14
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #348 on: November 22, 2020, 08:21:54 PM »

Does anybody know of any update on this? Things have gone very quiet in the last couple of months.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #349 on: November 22, 2020, 09:37:30 PM »

Have no idea but all I can say I still have it on my line. I imagine the trial must have been quite good or those of us who have it would probably have lost it by now - but who knows!

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #350 on: November 24, 2020, 10:31:31 PM »

I still have it on my line too....
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #351 on: November 25, 2020, 04:42:57 AM »

Does anybody know of any update on this? Things have gone very quiet in the last couple of months.

I doubt they want to change anything right now as there are still more people working from home than usual.  No problems here though.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #352 on: March 03, 2021, 08:57:37 PM »

Since I recently had my drop wire replaced and discovered it was damaged on the Plusnet pair, I figured the result might be interesting as that's my G.INP line.

Touch wood, so far the Home Hub 5A with OpenWRT has been so much more stable with the SNR tweaked.

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Chipset: Lantiq™ XWAY™ VRX268
Firmware Version: 5.9.0.12.1.7
API Version: 4.17.18.6
MEI Version: 1.5.17.6
Power Management Mode: L0 - Synchronized
Line State: UP [0x801: showtime_tc_sync]
Line Uptime: 6d 23h 53m 13s
Resyncs: 4
DSLAM/MSAN VID:
XTSE Capabilities: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2
Annex: B
Line Mode: G.993.2 (VDSL2)
Profile: 17a
Trellis: D: ON / U: ON
Bitswap: D: ON / U: ON
G.INP: D: Enabled / U: Not Enabled
Virtual Noise Support: D: Not Supported / U: Not Supported
Attain Data Rate: 71.471 Mb/s / 19.506 Mb/s
Actual Data Rate: 71.300 Mb/s / 19.399 Mb/s
Impulse Noise Prot: 43.7 sym / 0.0 sym
Interleave Delay: 0.20 ms / 0.0 ms
NFEC: 32 / 255
RFEC: 16 / 16
LSYMB: 16 / 5201
Interleave Depth: 1 / 1
Interleave Block: 32 / 255
LPATH: 0 / 0
Line Attenuation: 10.9dB / 12.1dB
Signal Attenuation: 10.9dB / 11.9dB
Noise Margin: 3.9dB / 6.1dB
Transmit power: 13.9dBm / 1.7dBm
FECS: 0 / 4438
ES: 458 / 14510
SES: 274 / 5
LOSS: 3 / 4
UAS: 130 / 130
HEC: 0 / 0
CRC_P: 0 / 0
CRCP_P: 0 / 0
15m Code Violations: 141 / 2
15m FEC Errors: 0 / 4
1d Code Violations: 1652 / 110
1d FEC Errors: 0 / 463

If I'm really lucky, maybe it wont get banded like my Zen line did which disabled my SNR offset.  Although so far, I'm not getting any real-world throughput improvement here, something is throttling it, its not even doing the Line Speed reported on the Plusnet portal which is 68.8Mbps.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #353 on: July 22, 2021, 03:13:18 PM »

Sadly with no news on this, we can only assume G.INP on ECI will never happen.

Sigh :(
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #354 on: July 22, 2021, 04:43:29 PM »

Yet a line I have followed since the start of this round still has it enabled on the DS.... 12 months plus with no issues...
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #355 on: July 22, 2021, 04:47:39 PM »

I don't know if its related but my line DOES have problems initially getting sync.  I had to boot up the HH5a twice before it worked after turning it off during a storm recently.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #356 on: July 22, 2021, 05:53:16 PM »

My line still has G.INP enabled from this time round.

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #357 on: July 22, 2021, 08:39:50 PM »

I might chase up an update since the media, and others have decided to give up on it, but personally I have accepted I am never likely to see it, for me progression is now moving on to a better underlying tech aka FTTP. 
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #358 on: July 22, 2021, 10:02:55 PM »

It makes me wonder if they stopped experimenting but left the lines with it enabled on.

Though thats just my speculation. It would be good to see what the official word is.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #359 on: July 23, 2021, 07:02:33 AM »

It's still enabled on my line.   I need a DLM reset really to get rid of the 60Mbps cap.   My own line actually has faired worse with g.inp than without. 
However that is down to the fact that I have a regular daily burst of SHINE for a few seconds.   g.inp doesnt work well with REIN or burst type noise and DLM  is trying to correct a line that otherwise works fine for 99.9% of the time. 
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