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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 39014 times)

j0hn

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2018, 01:17:55 PM »

ECI have 2 "firmware" versions.
0xd086 (208.134) and 0xb206 (178.6)

Ixel (posting above) has 2 lines on the same ECI DSLAM.
1st line shows 1 version (0xd086) and the 2nd line shows the other version (0xb206). Could be 2 different types of line card, no idea.

The reported firmware version won't necessarily change with the reintroduction of G.INP.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2018, 02:35:19 PM »

Indeed, the reattempt at G.INP might not necessarily mean we'll see a change in firmware version. Something else could be being done in order to prepare, assuming it's related to a reattempt of G.INP at all.

At a previous address I had two lines, one of which was on 0xb206 and the other was on 0xd086. Two different line cards on the same DSLAM. The 0xd086 performed better than the 0xb206 back when I was at the previous address, but everyone's experiences can vary.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2018, 02:45:30 PM »

The numbers in brackets are just the decimal conversions of the hex number in front. So to take Jon21's example above, d0(hex) = 208, 86(hex) = 134
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »

Never seen the 208.134 version before I wonder if this is an indication of something happening.

I am still at IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2018, 04:37:58 PM »

Never seen the 208.134 version before I wonder if this is an indication of something happening.

I am still at IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
208.134 / 0xd086 has been around for over 2 years

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,18140.msg329379.html#msg329379

edit: 3 years
https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15699.msg294430.html#msg294430

Unrelated to anything new and more likely related to the type of linecard.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2018, 04:43:19 PM by j0hn »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38:26 PM »

Any news?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2020, 11:06:46 PM »

Any news?

Other than that Openreach no longer install any ECI kit (be it OLT, ONT, DSLAM or MSAN), no, no news.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2020, 03:53:09 AM »

I am very surprised this is still ongoing.  Maybe revived due to the fact g.fast take up has been hideous.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2020, 02:05:51 PM »

I'm on an ECI cabinet and speeds have been gradually dropping over time. They especially dropped when the next door neighbour joined FTTC. I think their phone wire uses the same cable mine does from the pole to the house (its a semi detached building). I lost about 15Mbps because of that. I'm at 54Mbps. If this can get me back in to the 60s I'd be happy.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2020, 02:58:49 PM »

When Ginp was working on ECI many years ago it certainly gave me a good 10% jump in sync speed but it is all dependant on a shortish line/disturbers.

You also have to remember that Ginp *may* also lead to 3db targets which should also give a further 10% increase again all dependant on a shortish line/disturbers.

This is good news but i wouldn't get our hopes up yet we have been given false hope before.

I would certainly trial but I guess it will be just random cabinets selected I assume.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2020, 04:36:16 PM »

Hope it works. I'm on fastpath again (~73Mbps, 4-5ms ping to London servers), but it usually goes back to interleaved after 2-4 months :-/
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2020, 04:57:44 AM »

Thanks max

I notice it said trial and that it requires the ISP to opt in.  Would be nice if we did get it back as it could be a nice little boost compared to a line being interleaved, but I won't hold my breath just yet.    xdB would certainly be nice if that follows.

It's interesting to note that over the past month or so, Openreach appear to have been playing with the amount of errors (and/or type of errors) that it takes before interleaving is applied.  There's a few ECI lines which have been interleaved over the past few months which don't follow the rules as we know them.

@Bowden - same here.  My immediate neighbour switching from adsl2+ to FTTC cost me a very large chunk of speed.  Cant recall the exact amount now without going to check, but something like 10-12 Mbps. 
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2020, 08:13:10 AM »

I wonder if my line being below the handback threshold would push Plusnet into opting in?

Incidentally, does 3dB on ECI actually mean 3dB or is it more like 3.8dB?  Because with the Lantiq adjustment to SNRm that seems to be as low as either of my lines will go, frustrating as my Zen line could have full sync if it would push a little lower.
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