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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 52043 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #240 on: June 18, 2020, 05:57:27 AM »

Of course I'm not supposed to be, but can you really argue with this?
Line Uptime:
 51d 12h 44m 6s
Data Rate:
73.993 Mb/s / 20.000 Mb/s
Latency:
0.0 ms / 0.0 ms

Well that'll teach me, after the storms:
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Actual Data Rate:   67.000 Mb/s / 20.000 Mb/s
Impulse Noise Prot:   0.0 sym / 0.0 sym
Interleave Delay:   0.0 ms / 0.0 ms
NFEC:         255 / 255
RFEC:         16 / 16
LSYMB:         17979 / 5410
Interleave Depth:   1 / 1
Interleave Block:   255 / 255
LPATH:         0 / 0
Line Attenuation:   13.0dB / 15.9dB
Signal Attenuation:   13.1dB / 15.8dB
Noise Margin:      5.7dB / 6.8dB
Transmit power:      13.8dBm / 4.6dBm
FECS:         0 / 12
ES:         1 / 40123
SES:         0 / 12
LOSS:         0 / 0
UAS:         140 / 140
HEC:         0 / 0
CRC_P:         0 / 0
CRCP_P:         0 / 0
15m Code Violations:   0 / 1
15m FEC Errors:      0 / 5
1d Code Violations:   4 / 38
1d FEC Errors:      59 / 142

Seems DLM has decided to make my banding even more aggressive so that my negative SNRm offset no longer works.
Guess I should be thankful I'm at least still Fastpath.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2020, 06:01:33 AM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #241 on: June 20, 2020, 05:56:22 AM »

That reply from Zen is pure hog-wash.

Openreach have a trial in progress, for which they require testers. An ISP's customers can become part of the trial by the ISP making a request to Openreach.

One consequence of Zen's on-going negativity will be a loss of their customers.



Not surprising, the CP can have a different desire to their own customers.  Openreach only hear what the CP tells them (as the CP is their customer), and the end user only believes what the CP tells them, leading to situations where openreach and end users can have a total disconnect.  Sometimes there may be an extra level with smaller isp's so e.g. end user > aaisp > ttw > openreach.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #242 on: June 21, 2020, 05:37:15 PM »

Plusnet (Bob on their forums) has said they have no plans to add any people to the extended trial.  TLDR you will need to wait to see if OR roll it out to everyone.  I'm disappointed I'll just have to hope it is rolled out to everyone and it decides to enable for me.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #243 on: June 21, 2020, 05:41:47 PM »

Plusnet (Bob on their forums) has said they have no plans to add any people to the extended trial.  TLDR you will need to wait to see if OR roll it out to everyone.  I'm disappointed I'll just have to hope it is rolled out to everyone and it decides to enable for me.

Been waiting 4 years for its return... considering it seems to work why not just roll it out to the rest of us.... not having much luck with Zen. First Isp that goes with the current trial I would seriously consider moving too..
« Last Edit: June 21, 2020, 05:43:52 PM by skyeci »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #244 on: June 21, 2020, 05:50:49 PM »

Probably not worth swapping ISPs for (at least for me) a decision to roll it out to everyone must be due ”soon".  It sure feels like 4 years - we have waited this long hopefully a decision will be made soon.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #245 on: June 22, 2020, 02:02:45 AM »

The trial is ongoing again now at least.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #246 on: June 22, 2020, 09:32:37 AM »

It is concerning that no ISP appears to have opted in yet.  How can the trial be expanded if no one is joining it. 

Should OR just be picking a few more tens of thousands of lines at random?

Better yet just allow everyone to enable or disable Ginp.  Problem solved and already proved they can do it. 

There is absolutely no reason why ECI cab users shouldn't have Ginp available to them.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 09:34:58 AM by ktz392837 »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #247 on: June 22, 2020, 11:02:27 AM »

plusnet and BTr are both opted in, TTw are now as well.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #248 on: June 22, 2020, 11:04:22 AM »

Well I have had it turned on 11 days ago and I'm on ECI with TalkTalk but I've had no confirmation that TT are part of the trial even though I've asked on their community forum to be part of it and confirmed with the same thread that it has been enabled, I can only guess either TT are part of the trial or they are rolling it out anyway. Deafening silence from TT as per usual.

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #249 on: June 22, 2020, 11:10:34 AM »

Bear in mind, they not going to be enabling every line, it will just be a fraction.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #250 on: June 22, 2020, 11:55:30 AM »

Bear in mind, they not going to be enabling every line, it will just be a fraction.
Conflicting reports on Plusnet forums Bob(?) said they were not activating any further lines in the trial and we had to wait for the rollout (if it comes).
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #251 on: June 22, 2020, 01:11:04 PM »

Well I have had it turned on 11 days ago and I'm on ECI with TalkTalk but I've had no confirmation that TT are part of the trial even though I've asked on their community forum to be part of it and confirmed with the same thread that it has been enabled, I can only guess either TT are part of the trial or they are rolling it out anyway. Deafening silence from TT as per usual.

Stuart

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Given it's a trial that requires the ISP to opt in its fair to assume Talktalk are taking some part in it.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 01:15:54 PM by j0hn »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #252 on: June 29, 2020, 03:17:57 AM »

Briefly looked over this thread and noticed the lack of Zen apparently participating in this trial. 
Just logged into say I'm with Zen connected to an ECI cabinet and my line dropped in the early hours of Thursday 25th, to return shortly after with G.INP enabled.

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Stats recorded 29 Jun 2020 03:16:14

DSLAM type / SW version: IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  4 days 2 hours 2 min 52 sec
Resyncs:                2 (since 13 Jun 2020 21:27:12)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  14.5 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 67000 20000
SNR margin (dB):        6.4 11.0
Power (dBm):            5.1 5.1
Interleave depth:        1 1
INP:                    46.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0198 0.1650
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0.61 2.74
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skyeci

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #253 on: June 29, 2020, 05:33:36 AM »

Briefly looked over this thread and noticed the lack of Zen apparently participating in this trial. 
Just logged into say I'm with Zen connected to an ECI cabinet and my line dropped in the early hours of Thursday 25th, to return shortly after with G.INP enabled.

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Stats recorded 29 Jun 2020 03:16:14

DSLAM type / SW version: IFTN:0xb206 (178.6) / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  4 days 2 hours 2 min 52 sec
Resyncs:                2 (since 13 Jun 2020 21:27:12)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  14.5 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 67000 20000
SNR margin (dB):        6.4 11.0
Power (dBm):            5.1 5.1
Interleave depth:        1 1
INP:                    46.00 0
G.INP:                  Enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0198 0.1650
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0.61 2.74

Wow.. jackpot for you.. I am with Zen so hope our persistence has paid off??.... perhaps I might finally get it back at some point soon.... thanks for letting us know...
Zen told me if they did take part they couldn't let me know if they did.... :shrug2:
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 05:37:32 AM by skyeci »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #254 on: June 29, 2020, 10:07:51 AM »

Just logged into say I'm with Zen connected to an ECI cabinet and my line dropped in the early hours of Thursday 25th, to return shortly after with G.INP enabled.

Do you know if you are on Zen GEA or WBMC?
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