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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 51868 times)

Jon21

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #225 on: June 15, 2020, 08:26:41 PM »

So I have had a few further emails now from Zen with a bit of progress. The person concerned has seen a number of related emails in regards to eci g.inp. asked for permission to send on my emails to their internal contact who may be dealing with this so a bit of movement perhaps...


Keep on at em!..  ;)

I've just had an email saying pretty much the same thing. Good that they might be looking in to it.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #226 on: June 15, 2020, 08:27:28 PM »

I've just had an email saying pretty much the same thing. Good that they might be looking in to it.
Likewise. Fingers and toes crossed!

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Alex Atkin UK

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #227 on: June 16, 2020, 01:53:41 AM »

Ironically I'm hoping Zen DON'T roll it out to people who did not request it.

G.INP on my Plusnet line did NOT like my HH5a with OpenWRT on it, and that is absolutely essential to keep my sync speed high on my Zen line with the SNR adjusted down to 3dB.  I'd end up with a slower connection if I had to go back to 6dB and the Zyxel.

Its a fascinating scenario when both lines are from the same cabinet and drop cable but dramatically different line conditions.  Zen on Fastpath and Plusnet fell onto Interleaved when I tried to push THAT line to 3dB SNR, so G.INP does help that one.

Now if Openreach would roll out 3dB and G.INP to ECI cabs, it would be the best of both worlds.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #228 on: June 16, 2020, 06:18:39 AM »

But you're not supposed to be pushing your line to 3dB, wasn't it people using incompatible modems that caused problems the first time round?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #229 on: June 16, 2020, 09:10:08 AM »

But you're not supposed to be pushing your line to 3dB, wasn't it people using incompatible modems that caused problems the first time round?
What if my line been pushed to 3db by DLM? Yesterday we had power cut and my modem sync faster than others on my cabinet what resulted to snr dropped to 3db to keep 7999500 sync speed. It's running perfectly fine like that as I didn't rebooted, no excess of errors etc, nice and stable.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #230 on: June 16, 2020, 10:24:35 AM »

You've not forced your line to run faster at a lower dB, its a quirk of the system in your case, your modem came up quicker than others and therefore the system see's a low level of noise and sets the line accordingly. The other modems then come online creating additional noise and your dB reading drops, at the time of sync it would have been 6dB. If on a Huawei cabinet then these use dBx and are designed to sync at lower than 6dB.

In some cases lines have known to stay synced at even 1dB, but if they resync they will go back to 6dB target unless on dBx.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #231 on: June 16, 2020, 10:53:25 AM »

I'm on eci cabinet, and looking forward to get g.inp one day ;)
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #232 on: June 16, 2020, 01:29:55 PM »

This is the reply I got in an email just today -

Quote from: Zen ISP
I have had confirmation about the g.inp trial, at the moment we are not in a position to opt into this as openreach have not yet completed there trials . If we do opt into this we will be able to provide some more information on this and when/if this will take place.

If you have any further issues please do let me know.

Kind regards

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #233 on: June 16, 2020, 03:31:51 PM »

But you're not supposed to be pushing your line to 3dB, wasn't it people using incompatible modems that caused problems the first time round?

Of course I'm not supposed to be, but can you really argue with this?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #234 on: June 16, 2020, 03:36:03 PM »

Of course I'm not supposed to be, but can you really argue with this?]

That depends entirely on whether it's causing some one else issues  >:D
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #235 on: June 16, 2020, 03:36:31 PM »

That reply from Zen is pure hog-wash.

Openreach have a trial in progress, for which they require testers. An ISP's customers can become part of the trial by the ISP making a request to Openreach.

One consequence of Zen's on-going negativity will be a loss of their customers.

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #236 on: June 16, 2020, 03:48:44 PM »

That depends entirely on whether it's causing some one else issues  >:D

I don't think crosstalk ever works one-way, if it was causing a problem then my line would be unstable too?

Besides my Plusnet line SUCKS, I'm merely trying to balance that out with my good line.  :P
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #237 on: June 16, 2020, 05:50:10 PM »

That reply from Zen is pure hog-wash.

Openreach have a trial in progress, for which they require testers. An ISP's customers can become part of the trial by the ISP making a request to Openreach.

One consequence of Zen's on-going negativity will be a loss of their customers.

Agreed. I have emailed my contact again just to clarify this and  he is supposedly collating the emails asking for zen to opt in to pass further up the chain....
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #238 on: June 16, 2020, 09:21:39 PM »

I don't think crosstalk ever works one-way

It does if someone with an Asus modem switches off UPBO.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #239 on: June 16, 2020, 10:14:31 PM »

It does if someone with an Asus modem switches off UPBO.

That's true, but I get full sync on upstream so presumably even if I was an asshole and had hardware that stupidly allowed this, I would have no reason to disable it.
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