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Author Topic: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband  (Read 62651 times)

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2020, 02:38:28 AM »

First person has enabled G.INP from Plusnet ISP just now from PN forum

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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2020, 08:44:19 AM »

I lost the lottery I had a resync this morning it has removed my interleaving but no Ginp :(
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2020, 09:13:31 AM »

It seems to have tanked my SNRm even further, although at least the latency is much better.

I wonder if I'd be better off ditching Lantiq and going back to the Broadcom for this?

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Chipset: Lantiq™ XWAY™ VRX268
Firmware Version: 5.8.1.8.1.6
API Version: 4.17.18.6
MEI Version: 1.5.17.6
Power Management Mode: L0 - Synchronized
Line State: UP [0x801: showtime_tc_sync]
Line Uptime: 7h 19m 6s
Resyncs: 4
DSLAM/MSAN VID:
XTSE Capabilities: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x2
Annex: B
Line Mode: G.993.2 (VDSL2)
Profile: 17a
Trellis: D: ON / U: ON
Bitswap: D: ON / U: ON
G.INP: D: Enabled / U: Not Enabled
Virtual Noise Support: D: Not Supported / U: Not Supported
Attain Data Rate: 55.291 Mb/s / 20.384 Mb/s
Actual Data Rate: 61.020 Mb/s / 20.000 Mb/s
Impulse Noise Prot: 45.7 sym / 0.0 sym
Interleave Delay: 0.23 ms / 0.0 ms
NFEC: 32 / 255
RFEC: 16 / 16
LSYMB: 16 / 5410
Interleave Depth: 1 / 1
Interleave Block: 32 / 255
LPATH: 0 / 0
Line Attenuation: 12.3dB / 15.0dB
Signal Attenuation: 12.3dB / 14.9dB
Noise Margin: 4.6dB / 6.0dB
Transmit power: 14.0dBm / 5.7dBm
FECS: 0 / 199
ES: 25 / 34265
SES: 0 / 124
LOSS: 5 / 0
UAS: 141 / 141
HEC: 0 / 0
CRC_P: 0 / 0
CRCP_P: 0 / 0
15m Code Violations: 0 / 2
15m FEC Errors: 0 / 3
1d Code Violations: 1 / 48
1d FEC Errors: 41 / 239
« Last Edit: March 17, 2020, 09:17:43 AM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2020, 09:22:55 AM »

If your lantiq works good, I wouldn't bother, especially that you got g.inp compatible fw on it, and already g.inp on.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2020, 10:14:04 AM »

G.INP was applied to my line last night, max data rate increased by 7Mbps ping reduced 10ms unfortunately I'm unable to harvest my error stats as I'm using a Smarthub 6 but still very happy with the initial results….
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2020, 10:19:20 AM »

It show that plusnet do care for their customers for G. Inp trial while other isps don't
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2020, 11:01:26 AM »

I wish I tried for the trial but didn't want to risk problems with my line even though it seemed to work fine for the short amount of time I had it the last time they tried.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2020, 11:03:30 AM »

Plusnet have done a good thing here especially after the recent posts of the so called premium isps not really doing anything more (perhaps even less) for their customers when they have problems with their line.  Thumbs up Plusnet!
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2020, 12:42:36 PM »

Resync'd at 01:00 this morning which increased my Sync Speed by 2Mbps.

Stats one hour before resync.

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This information shows the latest ONGOING stats obtained at 00:00 on 17/03/2020


Downstream      Upstream                                        Downstream      Upstream

 
            Sync (kbps)    66037         20000                           Interleaving          1             1
 Attainable rate (kbps)    66100         25329                                    INP       0.00          0.00
       Attenuation (dB)      0.0           0.0
        SNR Margin (dB)      6.3           9.2
           Power (dBmV)      6.4           6.3                            SES (total)        154             0
RSUnCorr errors (delta)        0             0                RSUnCorr errors (total)          0             0
Errored seconds (delta)        0             0                Errored seconds (total)       2595          1441
       Bitswaps (delta)        0             0                       Bitswaps (total)       3608            92
     CRC errors (delta)        0             0                     CRC errors (total)      81819          1557
     HEC errors (delta)        0             0                     HEC errors (total)      31022             0
     FEC errors (delta)        0             0                     FEC errors (total)          0         16808
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Stats immediately after resync

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=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Plink log 2020.03.17 01:04:06 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25163 Kbps, Downstream rate = 67547 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 68019 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.3             9.3
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        6.6             6.6

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              150
B:              243             236
M:              1               1
T:              0               5
R:              6               16
S:              0.1142          0.3771
L:              17509           5410
D:              1               1
I:              250             255
N:              250             255
Q:              8               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                54              0
TxQueue:                18              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         18              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           154             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              6.4000          0.0000
L:              40              0
D:              3               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0





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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2020, 01:54:13 PM »

As an aside my throughput speed doesnt seem to have changed to reflect the increase in sync.   Not sure if PN need to update their profile.

My IPprofile at the w/e was 63.92 but I can't get a current figure from the BTw tester which is saying no data.


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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #145 on: March 17, 2020, 02:59:08 PM »

After reading responses on the Plusnet forums I wish I tried to get on the trial myself now (see post #18 for link). 
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #146 on: March 17, 2020, 04:58:14 PM »

Has it just been people that are using Plusnet that have had G.INP applied? Not noticed anything with Sky. But would guess it would be done in batches?
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #147 on: March 17, 2020, 05:11:22 PM »

It is only a few select limited people at the moment I believe who asked to be put on the trial even though there is a recent post in the plusnet thread saying all eci users have had it applied.  I certainly haven't :( and is wrong information.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #148 on: March 17, 2020, 05:51:22 PM »

Looks like only plusnet show up that they do job properly. I'm on ee, also volunteering on ee community forum to be in trial a way before, and nothing happened yet on my line.
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Re: Openreach UK Trial Finally Brings G.INP to ECI FTTC Broadband
« Reply #149 on: March 17, 2020, 06:00:23 PM »

Dang it, had two resyncs so not looking good here.  Time to try the Zyxel I think:

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Max:    Upstream rate = 20384 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58103 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 57383 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.2             6.0
Attn(dB):        13.7            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        13.7            6.4

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              150
B:              227             236
M:              1               1
T:              0               5
R:              12              16
S:              0.1264          0.3771
L:              15193           5410
D:              1               1
I:              240             255
N:              240             255
Q:              4               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                99              0
TxQueue:                33              0
G.INP Framing:          18              0
G.INP lookback:         31              0
RRC bits:               0               24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           122             -6
B:              0               0
M:              2               0
T:              2               0
R:              16              0
S:              8.0000          0.0000
L:              32              0
D:              1               0
I:              32              0
N:              32              0
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               75992
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             14660952                4937070
RSCorr:         5               4
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            29011           0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             231595          0
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         224             0
rtx_c:          0               0
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               0
minEFTR:        57376           0
errFreeBits:    407748          0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    51420457                0
Data Cells:     1541986         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               34333
SES:            0               125
UAS:            31              237902
AS:             467

                        Bearer 0
INP:            49.00           0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            6.15
OR:             0.01            202.87
AgR:            57508.75        20203.27

                        Bearer 1
INP:            2.00            0.00
INPRein:        2.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            16.06           0.01
OR:             63.75           0.01
AgR:            63.75   0.01

Bitswap:        116/116         0/0

Total time = 8 min 18 sec
FEC:            5               4
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               34333
SES:            0               125
UAS:            31              237902
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FailedRetr:     0
Latest 15 minutes time = 8 min 18 sec
FEC:            5               4
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               34333
SES:            0               125
UAS:            31              237902
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FailedRetr:     0
Previous 15 minutes time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           N/A
HostInitRetr:   N/A
FailedRetr:     N/A
Latest 1 day time = 8 min 18 sec
FEC:            5               4
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               34333
SES:            0               125
UAS:            31              237902
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FailedRetr:     0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FailedRetr:     0
Since Link time = 7 min 45 sec
FEC:            5               4
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               34333
SES:            0               125
UAS:            0               237871
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Retr:           0
HostInitRetr:   0
FailedRetr:     0
NTR: mipsCntAtNtr=0 ncoCntAtNtr=0
« Last Edit: March 17, 2020, 07:26:21 PM by Alex Atkin UK »
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