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oldfogy

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Phone calls & Email database considered
« on: May 20, 2008, 01:31:57 AM »


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Ministers are to consider plans for a database of electronic information holding details of every phone call and e-mail sent in the UK, it has emerged.

The plans, reported in the Times, are at an early stage and may be included in the draft Communications Bill later this year, the Home Office confirmed.

A Home Office spokesman said the data is a "crucial tool" for protecting national security and prevent crime.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7409593.stm
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 09:06:53 AM »

The Times is likening it to a *Big Brother scenario, and quite rightly too

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article3965033.ece

*no, not the TV program
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 09:08:28 AM »

Thats pretty scary

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"Given [ministers'] appalling record at maintaining the integrity of databases holding people's sensitive data, this could well be more of a threat to our security than a support."
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 10:03:01 AM »

Jeez. Security of personal details with this government is like a sieve!

All the information that they hold 'in secure conditions' is more readily available than the 'Births, Deaths & Marriages' announcements in the local papers.

Not much point in buying a new shreader when they let every Tom, Dick and Abdul get hold of a few CDs with all our bank details.

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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 10:38:02 AM »

It's quite frightening the way they use national security and the fight against terrorism to take away all sorts of civil liberties from us. I don't usually get political, but I have to say that the sooner this bunch of control freaks is kicked out the better for all of us.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 10:51:50 AM »

It's quite frightening the way they use national security and the fight against terrorism to take away all sorts of civil liberties from us.


Eric that is SO true,;  from the outside looking in, the UK  is beginning to resemble  an Eastern block satellite ..............so very sad to see  :(
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 04:22:11 PM »

This isn't news unless I'm missing something. RIPA already gives them this power and when the govt activated the last section of RIPA (last year?) then all ISPs are now obliged to record every data request made by your computer/network. That's every webpage, email, IM etc etc.

In short this is already happening.

The only thing I can think of is that the muppets want all inbound (ie not initiated by you) traffic logged too.

You should always assume that everything you do online is logged somewhere because it is.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 05:05:58 PM »


... unless I'm missing something.
... then all ISPs are now obliged to record every data request made by your computer/network.
... In short this is already happening.

Well the way I read it is this. At the moment individual ISPs record the info.

What the government now propose is to bring this all under one roof "theirs" on one gigantic database.
That way any cross checking can be done from this one single database instead of through hundreds of ISP records.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 07:04:53 PM »

And just how many millions of taxpayer's money is this going to cost?
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 07:08:29 PM »

And just how many millions of taxpayer's money is this going to cost?

In the initial instance i.e. setting the thing up?
Or in the inevitable government investigation for WHEN the thing gets compromised? :(
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 07:10:58 PM »

And just how many millions of taxpayer's money is this going to cost?

What a good wheeze for the beancounters to evaluate how many e-mails we send, how long surfing etc. so that they can then calculate how much tax to levy on us for internet use.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 07:26:25 PM »

I hadn't thought of that aspect of it TD - what an old cynic you are.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2008, 07:26:21 AM »

I hadn't thought of that aspect of it TD - what an old cynic you are.

I'm cynical too...and TD is probably correct in his assumption, after all this ruddy lot don't do owt for nowt and let's face it.... who's in the front line for coughing up (with arms held behind our backs) for everything in this country.... :'(  Worra wunderfuel country this is.... hmmph

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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2008, 09:49:54 AM »

Of course to make it completely an Orwellian 1984 world, the government would have all the ISP's installing keylogger's on everyone's PC system so they can keep tabs on us and feed us government propaganda..

Don't laugh, it could happen yet.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 10:07:52 AM »

Of course to make it completely an Orwellian 1984 world, the government would have all the ISP's installing keylogger's on everyone's PC system so they can keep tabs on us and feed us government propaganda..

Don't laugh, it could happen yet.


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