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Author Topic: Firefox V57 and onwards  (Read 3227 times)

broadstairs

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Firefox V57 and onwards
« on: October 23, 2017, 05:21:10 PM »

I wonder how many people here currently use Firefox and how many of those are aware that the vast majority of add-ons will cease working from V57 and onwards? How many of the current users will move to other browsers and if so which ones?

Currently I still use Firefox but for me it will be crippled by the changes from V57 onwards. I am trying other browsers on Linux but so far not impressed by any. I dont like Chromiums layout (or Chrome for that matter) as the bookmarks are not in a convenient place in my opinion. I have tried Vivaldi which is not bad and I've downloaded Midori but not yet tested it. I also dont like Konqueror or Opera at all. I guess my problems stem from my customisation of Firefox and although I could live without some of the add-ons I'd find it problematic to live without just a few which provide backup/restore and mouse gestures.

I do feel Mozilla have shot themselves in the foot with the new design.

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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 06:10:19 PM »

Simples: Options - Never check for updates (not recommended)

I wonder how many will do that?
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 06:32:22 PM »

Isn't it just a case of using addons that work with v57+ ?
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 06:35:26 PM »

I'm aware but currently got my head stuck in the sand!

I don't use many customisations, I have 7 add-ons and 5 will be broken  :(

@Dray, yes and know, many developers are not going to write add-ons that are compatible with 57 onwards, it's far to much work, and so locked down that some could not be done anyway.

The biggest one I will miss is tab groups, but I think there may be some hope with that one.

PS. I don't seem to be able to turn updates off, the options are greyed out  :(
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 09:06:56 PM »

Two of my biggest issues are mouse gestures and one called FEBE, the latter will die, not sure about the mouse one yet.

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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 12:02:30 AM »

Have you checked the Pale Moon web-browser? I know is Roseway's current browser of choice.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 02:22:20 AM »

For my alternative browser I use firefox Long Term Support version, which is based on pre v57, but that will of course eventually go end of life.

When that happens I will probably just stop updating it.  As crazy as it sounds, but there is many ways to lock down a system other than relying on vendor patches.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 07:07:55 AM »

I do use Pale Moon, as b*cat suggested. It's derived from FF version 27.xxx and is regularly updated with necessary patches. The only issue I have with it is that BBC videos tend to lock it up. I'm not sure why, as I've never had this happen with any other site.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 07:40:50 AM »

Likewise. It also has the advantage that it seamlessly updates MDWS graphs when on auto refresh, at least under Windows 10.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 09:38:37 AM »

I did try Palemoon but had issues with it, it is not stable enough in my view - or at least wasn't when I tried it probably over a year ago now.

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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 11:25:27 AM »

I've downloaded PaleMoon this morning - the second extension that I use in Firefox failed when I tried it - ChatZilla (Pseudo-Static in PaleMoon).
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2017, 07:58:52 PM »

I'm planning to switch to the ESR when the day comes and start evaluating alternatives in earnest. At the moment I use Palemoon (with a reduced number of addons) as a backup when an addon in Firefox interferes with a webiste. In my limited use of Palemoon I've found it to work well so far.

Took Vivaldi for a spin last year but it didn't make much of an impression on me. I think enough time has pasted to give it another try. I can see myself stick with ESR for a looong time.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2017, 10:28:21 AM »

I've recently been testing more with Vivaldi and I do quite like it. I gather it's based on Chrome but is infinitely more configurable and uses add-ons from chrome. So far the only major omission is the absence of an FTP client like FireFTP in Firefox but I guess I could live without that if I had to. Need to test some more but it is promising.

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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 02:17:22 PM »

For anyone on Windows http://www.coreftp.com/ is pretty good (and free) if you currently use FireFTP and want a standalone FTP client after that stops working.

There must be similar on Linux.
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Re: Firefox V57 and onwards
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 09:49:48 PM »

There is no shortage of FTP clients on Linux, it's just FireFTP was so convenient.

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