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Author Topic: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)  (Read 40334 times)

Chrysalis

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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #375 on: October 23, 2019, 10:56:15 AM »

It has the least attention from me because its inferior to 1312s & 8x24s. It is missing the input filter that makes these modems the best syncing, I bought one to test and found these results.

The new GUI is really quite a step up from the old, it works well on smaller screens and mobile where the old one was broken.

Regarding v13 and v5.13, you are looking at the wrong part of the version number. V5.13(AAVF.12) vs V5.13(AAVF.13).

I dont know how good those filters are as the 3925 on my line has the lowest ES rate and syncs as high as the older zyxel devices.  I do own a 8924 but chose to use the 3925 over it for the better sync performance.  Also the 8924 is ugly by design, the 3925 is a much more smaller unit and similar design to the 8800nl which I like :)

Please support this device thank you.

The mobile ui is the exact reason I think its a regression as usually mobile ui's on desktop screens pretty much suck.  Wish developers learnt how to detect via agent type again and maintain two ui's instead of pushing mobile ui's to desktops.  But aside from the design the new ui does have some bugs not in the old ui.

Since you have all the build tools setup isnt it just the case of compiling one extra image for each release or is there complications I dont know off?

I am guessing I am the only one that see's ES rate as a performance metric and can look past the headline sync speed? although the 3925 doesnt really sync any lower than the 8924 on my line.
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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #376 on: October 24, 2019, 10:17:59 AM »

It has the least attention from me because its inferior to 1312s & 8x24s. It is missing the input filter that makes these modems the best syncing, I bought one to test and found these results.

The new GUI is really quite a step up from the old, it works well on smaller screens and mobile where the old one was broken.

Regarding v13 and v5.13, you are looking at the wrong part of the version number. V5.13(AAVF.12) vs V5.13(AAVF.13).

I ordered one now, giving this famed filter a 3rd chance to improve my line :)  My view on filters has always been they can help, they can make things worse, they may make no difference.  The 3925 has a discrete dedicated switch chip, and gigabit ports, plus a dedicated wan port, so is superior spec wise to a 1312.  The only downside is the lack of this filter.  I will report back on here of course on how well the 1312 works.

https://support.aa.net.uk/VMG1312_Vs_VMG3925

I am guessing the 3925 devices have firmware differences tho that make custom builds a bit more of a challenge than the other two models? As I know the shell functions a bit different from discussions in the modem unlocking section.
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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #377 on: October 24, 2019, 03:48:35 PM »

https://support.aa.net.uk/VMG1312_Vs_VMG3925

Just a quick note to point out that the above quoted A&A wiki page is comparing the inferior ZyXEL VMG1312-B10D (and not the superior ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A) with the ZyXEL VMG3925-B10B.
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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #378 on: October 24, 2019, 04:36:49 PM »

The 3925 has a discrete dedicated switch chip, and gigabit ports, plus a dedicated wan port, so is superior spec wise to a 1312.  The only downside is the lack of this filter.  I will report back on here of course on how well the 1312 works.

I only ever recommend the VMG1312-B10A as a bridge modem.
It has a few flaws as a router.

As it's being used for UK FTTC with a max sync of 80/20 the lack of gigabit Ethernet ports makes no difference.

I'm yet to come across a modem that syncs higher, including 2 newer modems using the newer BCM63138.

The 8924 comes a close second.

I hope the 1312 has a positive effect on your line.
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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #379 on: October 24, 2019, 07:55:15 PM »

What j0hn said. AA support.aa.net.uk website has a page with bugs in the B10A . However if used in modem-only mode then these B10As work perfectly in my experience; I have four of them and I use IPv6; they have no clue about IPv6 the way Iím using them; everything carried is just a PPP frame of some sort or other.
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Re: BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode)
« Reply #380 on: October 28, 2019, 04:18:49 PM »

I have had the 1312 boxed for a few days, but I suddenly gone back to the "not caring" mode.   I guess for a week or so I was but now I am not, I will probably end up trying it at some point, but the enthusiasm has gone for now.

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got round to doing it, extra 200kbps sync speed, which is easily within the normal level of variance expected from sync to sync.  I will monitor ES to see if any differences on that.

The firmware is interesting tho, keeps the old zyxel UI. 
« Last Edit: October 30, 2019, 09:45:20 PM by Chrysalis »
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