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Author Topic: Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice  (Read 274 times)

Alex Atkin UK

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Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice
« on: November 22, 2021, 05:00:26 PM »

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Currently, we are not going to support Band C channel in our APs, it is because presently Band C channel is not popularly supported by client devices (like smartphones). In a situation like, when AP provides Band C channels but client device cannot use it, the client will have problems to access the Internet. Thatís why currently we are not going to support UNII-3 channels.

However, we will move this topic to Forum Ideas then keep track of the marketing conditions, and we will keep you updated once we have a certain schedule to support the feature.

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That makes zero sense as clients that support WiFi 6 are also more likely to support UNII-3.  I have a separate AP for WiFi 5 clients.

You are repeating the mistake a lot of manufacturers made with DFS, it was ages before client devices supported it because APs did not.  You've got this backwards, we need AP support now to encourage client device manufacturer to add it, not the other way around.

I was planning to replace this with a WiFi 6e unit once they come out, you're forcing my hand so I will have to use a different brand.

While I can see their point, surely a little warning in the UI that the channel might not work is all they'd need?  This is no different to warning that DFS channels might not work well.  Heck, I still have some devices that don't support DFS channels, with their logic they should never have supported it.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 05:04:45 PM by Alex Atkin UK »
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Re: Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 06:30:54 PM »

Zyxel seems to have an issue throwing off their residential user mindset.

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Re: Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 06:35:50 PM »

It is baffling.  Surely its not beyond the realm of possibility that a business might have an AP specifically for known clients that DO support Band C?

The whole point of using Band C is BECAUSE hardly anyone uses it due to lack of legacy client support, and no DFS requirement.

To be fair whilever I'm getting close to Gigabit on 160Mhz channel width I probably wouldn't resort to band C (which is only 125Mhz wide), but that could change if performance dips again.

Annoyingly the new MacBooks are only WiFi 6 not WiFi 6e so I will continue to have to deal with the 5Ghz song and dance.
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Re: Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2021, 04:52:54 AM »

Clarification: Alex, do you have an NWA 210AX ?
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Re: Zyxel NWA210AX - they do not believe in consumer choice
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2021, 09:17:40 PM »

Clarification: Alex, do you have an NWA 210AX ?

Yes.

On the positive side, its reduced my phones power consumption on WiFi quite dramatically.
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