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Author Topic: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package  (Read 7213 times)

Bowdon

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Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package

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Cable operator Virgin Media will today launch a refreshed range of broadband and TV bundles, which take account of the recent price rises and also introduce a new VIVID 200Mbps “Gamer” package that includes two big changes: 1) Faster upload speeds and, 2) The removal of Traffic Management.

At present subscribers who take Virgin’s normal 200Mbps (Megabits per second) broadband package will receive an Internet upload speed of just 12Mbps, but back in May 2016 we revealed that the operator was also in the process of trialling faster upload speeds; this reflected a 10:1 ratio of download to upload performance.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 10:42:38 AM »

I wonder what the pings and routing is like on VM?

If these are good, and with the increase in upload speed and the removal of traffic management I think VM are attempting to move in to being a viable option of online business people.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 11:28:46 AM »

What exactly do they mean by “traffic management” ?
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 11:58:17 AM »

Virgin heavily limit things like bittorrent/p2p. It's not just simple Qos, they are 1 of the worst ISPs for their traffic shaping/traffic management.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 12:21:24 PM »

I wonder if this includes the non disclosed QoS they "appear to have" activated recently.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 12:23:48 PM »

I presume VM's throttling is going to be illegal under the EU net neutrality law soon?
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 12:40:29 PM »

Is the UK still subject to EU laws since brexit?
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2016, 12:47:32 PM »

It will be at least another two years before we actually leave the EU.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2016, 01:54:53 PM »

Ofcom and the U.K. government will have to put this EU stuff into operation ASAP, and then it will be established long term. I do think it's great stuff, but they need to be about silly mistakes in the wording having undesireable accidental effects.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2016, 04:24:51 PM »

Virgin heavily limit things like bittorrent/p2p. It's not just simple Qos, they are 1 of the worst ISPs for their traffic shaping/traffic management.

The DPI kit doesn't shape anymore, monitoring only.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2016, 04:28:43 PM »

Ofcom and the U.K. government will have to put this EU stuff into operation ASAP, and then it will be established long term. I do think it's great stuff, but they need to be about silly mistakes in the wording having undesireable accidental effects.

Net neutrality as the 'purists' want it is moronic. As long as companies are open about how they manage their networks they should have every right to manage them as they see fit. Without being able to manage networks they cannot ensure that important traffic like VoIP gets through during periods of congestion.

If people don't like the manner in which the network is managed they just don't buy a service from that ISP.

I'm a fan of letting the market rule this one. :)
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2016, 04:31:32 PM »

What exactly do they mean by “traffic management” ?

That would be this.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2016, 04:35:40 PM »

I wonder what the pings and routing is like on VM?

If these are good, and with the increase in upload speed and the removal of traffic management I think VM are attempting to move in to being a viable option of online business people.

Generally the pings are equivalent to or sightly higher than FTTC, the jitter is noticeably worse and the routing can be 'interesting'.

VM's network shifts more data than any other consumer ISP and is built accordingly.
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 05:34:28 PM »

heh VOIP prioritised during congestion, or avoid the congestion?
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Re: Virgin Media Add Faster Uploads to 200Mbps Gamer Broadband Package
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2016, 05:46:00 PM »

Ignitionnet makes a very good point about letting companies run their own networks. I tend to agree and disagree at the same time, which makes absolutely no sense.  ??? ::)

However, I would say

* managing traffic according for QoS when the traffic needs it is explicitly allowed in the EU docs, as long as it's done for technical requirements, not because of some deal done by the money men.

* I agree with Tim Berners-Lee concerning the pressure that very big ISPs can exert on service providers and content providers by discrimination going against net neutrality rules. I doubt this is at all good for the growth of the Internet and for healthy innovation.

But generally, I hear you. My instinct is that customers should be absolutely free to choose a crappy, crippled ISP if that's what they want. Unfortunately though, there are additional considerations should one outfit become too dominant in market share.
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